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[johnf514_imp]

Glad I'm under warranty too, popgun. To my understanding, the IACV motor is a part of the throttle body, hence why they are replacing the whole part.

Not sure if that is correct, but either way, as long as it permanently fixes the bike, I'm happy.

[Lord Popgun]

It does mount in the throttle body, but is available as a separate part. OTOH, by replacing the whole thing, you also get a new TPS.

[johnf514_imp]

popgun, got it. I went back and re-read my email exchange with the dealership, and I believe they are replacing only the IACV motor. Not sure how that changes the effectiveness of the repair.

I will ask for the testing paperwork showing the IACV motor as the failed part. If they cannot produce this, I am not taking another chance with keeping the bike. If they can, and do show how the part failed, contributed to the fault condition, and was rectified without any other changes, then I will feel OK with keeping the bike.

I keep going back and forth and how I feel about keeping the bike after this experience. It will depend on how the dealership can take me through the repair process. If it seems sound, I believe I'll keep the bike.

[dsan1964_imp]

I just looked yesterday, my DLX is about 1200-1300 on warm up and 1000 when warm.

My 14 standard is the same. One day I was riding and the idle did drop low.. and stayed low but the bike did not die... so far no real issues. I am under extended warranty that I paid to much for..I will bring it in if I have any issues the guy at the dealership that sold it to me moved to another dealership as that one had closed.... same guy who got me on the high price warranty .. I may see if I can squeeze him for something down the road.


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[johnf514_imp]

IACV motor replaced and the issue went away without an ECU reset. While this is hopefully the fix that sticks, I will list the bike and see what I can get for it.

Motogeezer, still selling that XSR?

[the Ferret]

Geezer was selling his XSR? I know he was selling his CB.

[Ulvetanna_imp]

IACV motor replaced and the issue went away without an ECU reset. While this is hopefully the fix that sticks, I will list the bike and see what I can get for it.

Motogeezer, still selling that XSR?

Only thing I can tell you about this is that any modern bike is going to exhibit technology-driven issues such as this one from time to time.

The bike is honestly not that exhilarating on the whole, it is heavy and slow and I can see if one was not that enamored of it, after this experience, cut it loose.

But these tech gremlins lurk in every brand, and more so in some than others.

So, if you actually do really like the bike, contemplate it for a time. Any equivalent retro-style replacement is much likely less-sorted than the CB1100, be it BMW, Triumph, or whomever.

Speaking of the Yamaha, terrible fueling on the triples. Terrible. Can it be endured? Perhaps. Maybe that's why the XSR is for sale, though, it if is.

I can say one thing, I never buy a motorcycle based on looks or the promise of some return to the past. Those design teams know how our nostalgic minds work and act accordingly. But the accountants cut pennies everywhere. The Yamaha triple is just such a bike, it promises so much: light, powerful, agile, and a bargain. But a cheap ECU and programming, mediocre chassis and suspension, and numerous other warts seriously betray it.

The CB1100 is no such bike, it's built cleanly and purely from a very pristine sheet of paper, in Honda's most advanced manufacturing facility. There are enough of them now to demonstrate excellent longevity and durability, and other than a few faulty batteries, there have been no real issues with the bike.

If this RPM issue has affected a few, there is a solution and it sounds like it's been effected.

[johnf514_imp]

Ferret, yessir, I don't have the CL link in front of me, but I chatted with him about it a few weeks ago. It is on sale in the Orlando market.

Ulvetanna, thank you for the comprehensive reply. I've read about the fueling on the triples and the XSR appears to have resolved some/most of that problem. I believe the CB is a fantastic bike, and that the Honda brand and CB line are a cut above anything I have previously owned.

However, I cannot reconcile the experience that I've had and how in nine months of ownership, I've gone from looking forward to riding to dreading the next problem I'll have. While I'm not a fan of radical change, beating your head against the wall repeatedly does not make for a satisfying experience. I can tell you that the high idle issue has figuratively felt like that.

It is unfortunate. If this was my daily driver, I would have been significantly affected. As it stands now, I have had to repeatedly find my way to & from the nearest dealership (19 miles from my house), wait multiple weeks for repairs, deal with a apathetic service shop, and ride with uncertainty wondering when the next failure would arise.

Both Kawi's I owned (the 636, for seven years) never did this. The Triumph my friend owns and put +3K miles on riding the PCH this summer never did. His S1000R never did.

There is always a visceral reaction to defend what we love, but when what we love fails us, my logic dictates to do something different.

[the Ferret]

Yea it's tough when something lets you done, and disheartening if it does it more than once. I can certainly understand your apprehension about owning this particular bike in the future. Good luck with whatever route you take in the future.

Fow what it's worth I have ridden the XSR and my son has an 2016 FJ-09, and the fueling is far and away better than first year model FZ's which were nearly unrideable.

[Ulvetanna_imp]

Yea it's tough when something lets you done, and disheartening if it does it more than once. I can certainly understand your apprehension about owning this particular bike in the future. Good luck with whatever route you take in the future.

Fow what it's worth I have ridden the XSR and my son has an 2016 FJ-09, and the fueling is far and away better than first year model FZ's which were nearly unrideable.

All the same I would not recommend replacing your CB1100 with an XSR.

I'm not defending the bike because I love it, just pointing out that technology can fail in any bike. The CB1100 is not known for these kinds of failures. But I've gotten fed up with a couple of bikes that I actually liked even better than my CB1100: a Hawk GT with a fueling issue I couldn't resolve comes to mind, I finally just traded it in. You just have to move on.