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Corrosion on pipes
#21
The stainless header pipe spec was one of the major disappoints for me. I'd really prefer chromed double wall headers and would have been willing to do what it takes to keep them sparking (at > 36K miles the headers on my long gone 750 NightHawk still looked new when I sold the bike).

Stainless headers must be cheaper to produce than double wall chromed ones.. sigh...
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#22
(05-25-2013, 04:17 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote: The stainless header pipe spec was one of the major disappoints for me. I'd really prefer chromed double wall headers and would have been willing to do what it takes to keep them sparking (at > 36K miles the headers on my long gone 750 NightHawk still looked new when I sold the bike).

Stainless headers must be cheaper to produce than double wall chromed ones.. sigh...

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.

also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.
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#23
(05-25-2013, 05:27 AM)Deanohh_imp Wrote:
(05-25-2013, 04:17 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote: The stainless header pipe spec was one of the major disappoints for me. I'd really prefer chromed double wall headers and would have been willing to do what it takes to keep them sparking (at > 36K miles the headers on my long gone 750 NightHawk still looked new when I sold the bike).

Stainless headers must be cheaper to produce than double wall chromed ones.. sigh...

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.

also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.

also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.
yep, all understood. I sold my 2006 Speed Triple to make room for the CB1100. The Speed Triple (as we know) is a superior machine by all objective measures, except, it was never a bike that I admired for just sitting in the garage. The CB1100 is a jewel that I like even when it is just sitting dormant. Now, if it only had chromed headers.. A big inch in line air cooled 4 is *supposed* to have chromed headers, darn it !
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(05-25-2013, 01:05 PM)furious_blue_imp Wrote:
(05-25-2013, 05:27 AM)Deanohh_imp Wrote:
(05-25-2013, 04:17 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote: The stainless header pipe spec was one of the major disappoints for me. I'd really prefer chromed double wall headers and would have been willing to do what it takes to keep them sparking (at > 36K miles the headers on my long gone 750 NightHawk still looked new when I sold the bike).

Stainless headers must be cheaper to produce than double wall chromed ones.. sigh...

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.

also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.

also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.
yep, all understood. I sold my 2006 Speed Triple to make room for the CB1100. The Speed Triple (as we know) is a superior machine by all objective measures, except, it was never a bike that I admired for just sitting in the garage. The CB1100 is a jewel that I like even when it is just sitting dormant. Now, if it only had chromed headers.. A big inch in line air cooled 4 is *supposed* to have chromed headers, darn it !

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.


also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.
yep, all understood. I sold my 2006 Speed Triple to make room for the CB1100. The Speed Triple (as we know) is a superior machine by all objective measures, except, it was never a bike that I admired for just sitting in the garage. The CB1100 is a jewel that I like even when it is just sitting dormant. Now, if it only had chromed headers.. A big inch in line air cooled 4 is *supposed* to have chromed headers, darn it ! Ceramic coat them? it want be chrome but they have a polished aluminum look finish they offer. theyvwill also cool off very fast thanks to Jet Hot Coating doing the inside and outside?
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#25
(05-25-2013, 04:17 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote: The stainless header pipe spec was one of the major disappoints for me. I'd really prefer chromed double wall headers and would have been willing to do what it takes to keep them sparking (at > 36K miles the headers on my long gone 750 NightHawk still looked new when I sold the bike).

Stainless headers must be cheaper to produce than double wall chromed ones.. sigh...
They are.
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#26
(05-29-2013, 05:45 AM)jamboa_imp Wrote:
(05-25-2013, 01:05 PM)furious_blue_imp Wrote:
(05-25-2013, 05:27 AM)Deanohh_imp Wrote:
(05-25-2013, 04:17 AM)furious_blue_imp Wrote: The stainless header pipe spec was one of the major disappoints for me. I'd really prefer chromed double wall headers and would have been willing to do what it takes to keep them sparking (at > 36K miles the headers on my long gone 750 NightHawk still looked new when I sold the bike).

Stainless headers must be cheaper to produce than double wall chromed ones.. sigh...

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.

also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.

also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.
yep, all understood. I sold my 2006 Speed Triple to make room for the CB1100. The Speed Triple (as we know) is a superior machine by all objective measures, except, it was never a bike that I admired for just sitting in the garage. The CB1100 is a jewel that I like even when it is just sitting dormant. Now, if it only had chromed headers.. A big inch in line air cooled 4 is *supposed* to have chromed headers, darn it !

Stainless darkens with heat (in the presence of oxygen). Power makes heat... So as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the darkened headers cause it shows that the engine has been working and making some power. On my street triple they're almost black and its no trouble at all.


also the exhaust system is regulated as part of the emissions control and is required to last x number of years under defined conditions. Plated chrome headers probably do not pass corrosion requirements and under some conditions fail to meet regulations.
yep, all understood. I sold my 2006 Speed Triple to make room for the CB1100. The Speed Triple (as we know) is a superior machine by all objective measures, except, it was never a bike that I admired for just sitting in the garage. The CB1100 is a jewel that I like even when it is just sitting dormant. Now, if it only had chromed headers.. A big inch in line air cooled 4 is *supposed* to have chromed headers, darn it ! Ceramic coat them? it want be chrome but they have a polished aluminum look finish they offer. theyvwill also cool off very fast thanks to Jet Hot Coating doing the inside and outside?

That's an interesting thought !

It led me to search for 'chroming stainless steel', which apparently can be done. I may keep that in mind. No way I can afford to do it now anyway.

Maybe in some future I'd keep an eye out for intact headers from a crashed bike. Polish the exteriors so that the chrome job will look proper, then have them chromed.. I can dream, can't I ?
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#27
Sure you can chrome them but the chrome will turn blue.
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#28
(05-29-2013, 07:23 AM)Deanohh_imp Wrote: Sure you can chrome them but the chrome will turn blue.

oh, right.. no double wall, doh !
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#29
I wonder if you had the inside of the pipes jet-hot coated, if the outside would discolor less.
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#30
It's been about 500 miles since I got rid of all the spots and blue on my pipes using #0000 steel wool and simichrome blue away.
Since then I've only had a few spots and some blue on the two middle headers, doesn't look at all horrible like it did before so I am going to leave them.

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