A shot at motorcyclists ...

[Labrador12_imp]

I'm on Prince of Wales Island in Alaska. I commonly see black bears fishing up and down the river from me while I'm on the water. My yellow lab +P and I don't let them get too close while we're fishing. Its bad form to let a bear steal your fish. Its a bad habit for bears to get into. Managed to get my CB up there a couple of years ago. What a blast! Only got one speeding ticket.

[Charlie Bravo_imp]

This is an on-going, perpetual argument. When I started riding in 1969, it was for fun, not for transportation, and it's still that way. Us Army guys could rent and buy bikes Thailand, but the Air Force guys could not. When I got out of the Army in '71, I of course got a car, but was soon shopping for a bike, strictly for fun. After I found a bike, my car took a dump and I had to ride the bike all winter, or what we call winter in SoCal, but we set a record for rainfall that year. I got soaked many times on the way to work or school, didn't have good rain gear, just a windbreaker over my three sweatshirts. Water down the back of your neck is no fun. I think every driver in every state should receive motorcycle awareness training and it should be on the DL test, especially for older motorists who alway say "I didn't see him!" because they weren't looking for him.

[Tev62]

The the western world has developed an extreme adversity to risk in virtually all aspects of life driven in part by compo culture and liability laws. Local Politicians need to be more worldly wise to realise that mega regulated environments like ours will be the downfall of the west (that and Government policy directed by the self entitled Twitter Mob) The populaton are being told risk is bad and if anything bad to you happens in life you are entitled to generous redress at the rest of the populations expense. You will see TV and Radio adverts designed to reduce "some accident or another" being justified with the statement "if it saves one life it will be worth it". This myth perpetuated by politicians or government agencies who have no concept of opportunity cost.

[Roper_imp]

The the western world has developed an extreme adversity to risk in virtually all aspects of life driven in part by compo culture and liability laws. Local Politicians need to be more worldly wise to realise that mega regulated environments like ours will be the downfall of the west (that and Government policy directed by the self entitled Twitter Mob) The populaton are being told risk is bad and if anything bad to you happens in life you are entitled to generous redress at the rest of the populations expense. You will see TV and Radio adverts designed to reduce "some accident or another" being justified with the statement "if it saves one life it will be worth it". This myth perpetuated by politicians or government agencies who have no concept of opportunity cost.

Every political party has talking points about how to make society safer. Individual citizens can mitigate the biggest risks. Here are the leading causes of death ranked:

1) Heart disease
2) Cancer
3) Preventable injuries
4) Respiratory disease
5) Stroke

In the preventable injury category, here are your odds of dying next year:

Accidental poisoning: 1 in 5,243.
Opioids: 1 in 7,695.
Gun: 1 in 23,439.
Pedestrian: 1 in 42,600.
Car occupant: 1 in 47,852.
Motorcycle: 1 in 70,072.

Motor vehicles are already among the most tightly regulated activities. If the government is super serious about saving lives, there are other areas where intervention would yield much higher results.

[michael1954]

Leading cause of death for 18 to 25 year old adults is Auto accidents. For us, a little older, car wrecks do not even register, and I doubt Motorcycle deaths are a large % of the demise of old timers. I too started riding for fun the year before the Mach III came out. Thank God I could not afford one. With its crummy brakes, and my skill level in 1970, I might not be here today!

[GoldOxide_imp]

There were soooooooo many reasons why many of us would've not made it out of the 70s.



But we know it is possible. Look at Keith Richards today. Heck, look at Ozzy Osbourne.

[Cormanus]

There were soooooooo many reasons why many of us would've not made it out of the 70s.



But we know it is possible. Look at Keith Richards today. Heck, look at Ozzy Osbourne.

I've thought hard about this and can't think of single reason to do it.

[GoldOxide_imp]

There were soooooooo many reasons why many of us would've not made it out of the 70s.



But we know it is possible. Look at Keith Richards today. Heck, look at Ozzy Osbourne.

I've thought hard about this and can't think of single reason to do it.

I've thought hard about this and can't think of single reason to do it.
lol - ah, wa' 'bout just listening to him?

[j3gq_imp]

The the western world has developed an extreme adversity to risk in virtually all aspects of life driven in part by compo culture and liability laws. Local Politicians need to be more worldly wise to realise that mega regulated environments like ours will be the downfall of the west (that and Government policy directed by the self entitled Twitter Mob) The populaton are being told risk is bad and if anything bad to you happens in life you are entitled to generous redress at the rest of the populations expense. You will see TV and Radio adverts designed to reduce "some accident or another" being justified with the statement "if it saves one life it will be worth it". This myth perpetuated by politicians or government agencies who have no concept of opportunity cost.

@ Tev: I do very much like every single word you say.
What I like even more is Guth/s words on page 1 of this thread. People telling other people what they can or should do. Nobody likes to be on the short end of this deal. The problem started with the division of labor. Since the contributions to the laborious jobs are hardly ever equal, and the benefits aren't either (instead they are all to often diametrical opposed), whoever sees any benefit in any deal, develops almost instantaneously a need to tell other people other people what to do.