This bike slows me down

[Guth_imp]

It's strange that whatever car or truck we're driving, maybe the same one for 200K miles, we get in it and drive it, and rarely do we do anything about what we don't like about it - we just get comfortable with it.

But we get on our bike, and the mirror is too short or too big so we change it. Or the handle bars are too low/too high, so we change it. The exhaust doesn't look or sound right, so we change it. Or there's too much wind, or we need to carry stuff, or.....

So we personalize it, and can see and feel the difference immediately, a source of great satisfaction. We like our cars, but we LOVE our bikes!

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And as far as the bike slowing me down, no, it was the opposite.
I slowed down, and the bike accommodated me.

Not me. I've heavily modified just about every car I've ever owned.

Camshafts, ecu tuning, headers, high flow cats and exhaust, ported cyl heads, modified intake manifolds, bored out several throttle bodies, sway bars, mechanical differentials, you name it... even the occasional completely different engine install, made an automatic into a stick shift, converted drum brakes into disc with factory ABS install.

Not me. I've heavily modified just about every car I've ever owned.

Camshafts, ecu tuning, headers, high flow cats and exhaust, ported cyl heads, modified intake manifolds, bored out several throttle bodies, sway bars, mechanical differentials, you name it... even the occasional completely different engine install, made an automatic into a stick shift, converted drum brakes into disc with factory ABS install.
I'm getting the impression that you've rarely been satisfied with pretty much every vehicle you've ever purchased, be it one with two wheels or four. I've got no problem with that and it helps me understand how you have such a hard time accepting the fact that others can be perfectly happy with a motorcycle like the CB1100 just the way it came from the factory even though many are.

You might feel that the changes you made are quantifiable improvements, but to expect everyone to agree with you is totally unrealistic (trust me, nobody is ever going to get a consensus on one seat being superior to another). Furthermore, when it comes to cars and motorcycles for many it is the subjective things that far outweigh the rest. My hunch is that despite your many modifications there are some who own stock CB1100's out there that are even happier with their own motorcycles than you are with yours. The working phrase here is to each their own.

[Charlie Bravo_imp]

I was surprised the other day, riding my CB along PCH, that I was very content to just putt along, rarely overtaking, rarely filtering, (except at lights. Legal in CA) I was just enjoying the ride, with no real destination in mind. Does that mean I'm getting old? I'd still like a bit more sound and am looking for a windshield, but that's it.

[the Ferret]

old = no (although it's a possibility") ... CB Mellow = YES!

[PowerDubs_imp]

It's strange that whatever car or truck we're driving, maybe the same one for 200K miles, we get in it and drive it, and rarely do we do anything about what we don't like about it - we just get comfortable with it.

But we get on our bike, and the mirror is too short or too big so we change it. Or the handle bars are too low/too high, so we change it. The exhaust doesn't look or sound right, so we change it. Or there's too much wind, or we need to carry stuff, or.....

So we personalize it, and can see and feel the difference immediately, a source of great satisfaction. We like our cars, but we LOVE our bikes!

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And as far as the bike slowing me down, no, it was the opposite.
I slowed down, and the bike accommodated me.

Not me. I've heavily modified just about every car I've ever owned.

Camshafts, ecu tuning, headers, high flow cats and exhaust, ported cyl heads, modified intake manifolds, bored out several throttle bodies, sway bars, mechanical differentials, you name it... even the occasional completely different engine install, made an automatic into a stick shift, converted drum brakes into disc with factory ABS install.

Not me. I've heavily modified just about every car I've ever owned.

Camshafts, ecu tuning, headers, high flow cats and exhaust, ported cyl heads, modified intake manifolds, bored out several throttle bodies, sway bars, mechanical differentials, you name it... even the occasional completely different engine install, made an automatic into a stick shift, converted drum brakes into disc with factory ABS install.
I'm getting the impression that you've rarely been satisfied with pretty much every vehicle you've ever purchased, be it one with two wheels or four. I've got no problem with that and it helps me understand how you have such a hard time accepting the fact that others can be perfectly happy with a motorcycle like the CB1100 just the way it came from the factory even though many are.

You might feel that the changes you made are quantifiable improvements, but to expect everyone to agree with you is totally unrealistic (trust me, nobody is ever going to get a consensus on one seat being superior to another). Furthermore, when it comes to cars and motorcycles for many it is the subjective things that far outweigh the rest. My hunch is that despite your many modifications there are some who own stock CB1100's out there that are even happier with their own motorcycles than you are with yours. The working phrase here is to each their own.

I find your response to be quite hostile.

It's strange that whatever car or truck we're driving, maybe the same one for 200K miles, we get in it and drive it, and rarely do we do anything about what we don't like about it - we just get comfortable with it.

But we get on our bike, and the mirror is too short or too big so we change it. Or the handle bars are too low/too high, so we change it. The exhaust doesn't look or sound right, so we change it. Or there's too much wind, or we need to carry stuff, or.....

So we personalize it, and can see and feel the difference immediately, a source of great satisfaction. We like our cars, but we LOVE our bikes!

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And as far as the bike slowing me down, no, it was the opposite.
I slowed down, and the bike accommodated me.

Not me. I've heavily modified just about every car I've ever owned.

Camshafts, ecu tuning, headers, high flow cats and exhaust, ported cyl heads, modified intake manifolds, bored out several throttle bodies, sway bars, mechanical differentials, you name it... even the occasional completely different engine install, made an automatic into a stick shift, converted drum brakes into disc with factory ABS install.

Not me. I've heavily modified just about every car I've ever owned.

Camshafts, ecu tuning, headers, high flow cats and exhaust, ported cyl heads, modified intake manifolds, bored out several throttle bodies, sway bars, mechanical differentials, you name it... even the occasional completely different engine install, made an automatic into a stick shift, converted drum brakes into disc with factory ABS install.
I'm getting the impression that you've rarely been satisfied with pretty much every vehicle you've ever purchased, be it one with two wheels or four. I've got no problem with that and it helps me understand how you have such a hard time accepting the fact that others can be perfectly happy with a motorcycle like the CB1100 just the way it came from the factory even though many are.

You might feel that the changes you made are quantifiable improvements, but to expect everyone to agree with you is totally unrealistic (trust me, nobody is ever going to get a consensus on one seat being superior to another). Furthermore, when it comes to cars and motorcycles for many it is the subjective things that far outweigh the rest. My hunch is that despite your many modifications there are some who own stock CB1100's out there that are even happier with their own motorcycles than you are with yours. The working phrase here is to each their own.

I never said that or anything remotely close to that.

A person can live however they want, drive whatever they like, ride whatever they want.

Doesn't mean there isn't a better way if they want it.

I look at things and see ways they can be better. Others take what they are given.

But hey- much of that is true for everything- your spouse, the job you go to, the car you drive, the house you live in, the food you eat.

[GoldOxide_imp]

is quite cool too, AU2O3. Good to see you back.

Hey, thx. Just dropping in for a little while checking that the place hasn't been totaled, trashed, or sumthin'.

I was keen on following up on the 2020 Eastern U.S. CB1100 Rally. Also, I see the RLET is alive and well, and new Padawan graduates are still happening.

I help mod the fine Africa Twin site, but there is something special about the original CB1100 Forum. It is kinda like an ol' blanket sort of thing.

[Cormanus]

Yep. Does your AT wear an RLET or two? Are you spreading the word?

[GoldOxide_imp]

Yep. Does your AT wear an RLET or two? Are you spreading the word?

Heh, heh, ... it is a whole different breed of rider over there.

RLETs would be hidden behind grip guards. If the grip guards are Honda OEM, the RLETs would be ripped off and lost forever on the first fall.

Popular folklore obsessions tend to be things like:
[ul] [li]"napping" - When the Africa Twin is sleeping on the ground. This seems to happen often, and proud images are captured.[/li] [li]"bash plates" - There is some addiction to non-OEM bash plates.[/li] [li]"crash bars" - The more non-OEM, the better.[/li] [li]"offroad tires" - This is about as close one gets to RLETs. They are black, and they are rubber. But is it good in sand? In mud? As well as carving asphalt corners?
[/li][/ul] ... and so on.

[the Ferret]

It is only fitting that this site is the only one where Rlets mean anything special

Glad the AT guys (and gals) have found their " own" things to obsess about

[GoldOxide_imp]

It is only fitting that this site is the only one where Rlets mean anything special

Glad the AT guys (and gals) have found their " own" things to obsess about

I am in total agreement.

The RLET ... ahem, ... "THE RLET" is the VALUE ADD that makes the CB1100 FORUM UNIQUE.






Almost time to get back to the other forum.

[Cormanus]

Gee, Ferret, that statement might require some further thought. I recently watched a French series called The Forest on Netflix. One of the characters was a teacher who rode a green CB250 which was of an era to be fitted with RLETs I meant to start a thread on it titled "RLETs on the screen".

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Back in the day they were standard fare on most Hondas. Why then should we have a monopoly on them? Unless, of course, it is that you can rightly claim credit for having caused an RLET renaissance.