If you were going to buy a liter sport bike 2019-20...

[Novice_imp]

Ferret how does your son find the front suspension and brakes on his MT-10? I watched a video and that was one point of criticism, not that they were bad by any means, just that the forks were a little soft and the brakes weren’t as aggressive as the reviewer would have liked.

[the Ferret]

His only complaint is the seat which he says is hard as a brick after 45 mins. He is like me, rides a pretty good pace for our curvy country roads, but is not an overly aggressive rider

[rboe]

Moto Guzzi (e.g. Griso or the Sport which is based on the Breva) might be good choices. They are CARC bikes and no longer made. You should find some new stock Griso's though. I had a Griso for about 6 years and while there was a lot to like, it just was not a good fit for me (physically, my legs are too long) I finally gave her up.

I'm pretty much motor agnostic, a good motor is a good motor and I can appreciate a really good motor. What I really liked about the Guzzi; working on the motor (e.g. valve adjustment) was dead simple. Most work can be done at home (which is good as the dealer network sucks).

However; to did a Guzzi it usually takes a 100 mile test ride and if you dig it you run the risk of becoming a guzzista - aka One of Them, aka Cheap Bas....., aka eccentric. I'd take a Guzzi over a Duc or Harley any day. I think I'd take a Honda over a Guzzi though. Your mileage may vary.

The only liter bikes I'm really attracted to today are adventure bikes, but mainly because I don't fold that well any more and I like leg room. Which is more important than cc's.

[Novice_imp]

I really like the BMWs, but then I see something like this:

https://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/bmw-s...ssues.html

7 Pages of discussion about mechanical issues. Granted, they may not be anything of substance, but I generally just don't see that with Japanese bikes.

Moto Guzzi (e.g. Griso or the Sport which is based on the Breva) might be good choices. They are CARC bikes and no longer made. You should find some new stock Griso's though. I had a Griso for about 6 years and while there was a lot to like, it just was not a good fit for me (physically, my legs are too long) I finally gave her up.

I'm pretty much motor agnostic, a good motor is a good motor and I can appreciate a really good motor. What I really liked about the Guzzi; working on the motor (e.g. valve adjustment) was dead simple. Most work can be done at home (which is good as the dealer network sucks).

However; to did a Guzzi it usually takes a 100 mile test ride and if you dig it you run the risk of becoming a guzzista - aka One of Them, aka Cheap Bas....., aka eccentric. I'd take a Guzzi over a Duc or Harley any day. I think I'd take a Honda over a Guzzi though. Your mileage may vary.

The only liter bikes I'm really attracted to today are adventure bikes, but mainly because I don't fold that well any more and I like leg room. Which is more important than cc's.

I love Guzzis, but due to the limited dealership support and/or parts availability that pretty much rules them out as a practical matter for me.

It's the same with Aprilia. All the reviewers that ride motorcycles for free love the V4. I agree, it's an awesome sounding and performing engine and they are priced competitively. However, the bikes are complicated, not necessarily a bad thing, but the dealer support is limited so I'm ruling them out for now. I would probably be better of with a Ducati V4, if I wanted to go that route (not really)

[Cormanus]

I guess you've seen [url=https://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/seven-liter-bikes-that-left-me-weak-in-the-knee-pucks-a-sicilian-love-affair]this article, Novice?

[Novice_imp]

I have not, just been following the overall scene. Thank you for the link!

[GoldOxide_imp]

I guess you've seen [url=https://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/seven-liter-bikes-that-left-me-weak-in-the-knee-pucks-a-sicilian-love-affair]this article, Novice?

Some sic collection.

[MM300_imp]

Since I sold my CB I haven’t really thought about another full size bike. (Just hit 2500 miles on my Z125). I have occasionally wondered if I’ll ever get another bike but have had no idea what it might be. Nothing at my regular dealer looks interesting and I know I’m not to be trusted with a liter sport bike. I stopped at a different dealer last Thursday and saw the Kawi Z900...and now I know what I’d get.

[Jim21680_imp]

Buying a literbike is one thing.....but I honestly don't understand how people insure them. (Really, my brain does not comprehend it).

I remember getting quotes on them, and I would easily be paying more for the insurance per month than I would for the bike payment.
I'm a responsible 39-year old rider with a perfect history in a nice residential neighborhood, and the premiums are still insane.

Maybe it's different for others who live elsewhere. But I do see plenty of 20-somethings riding around on them, and I honestly do not understand how they afford it.

[LongRanger_imp]

Perhaps they self-insure. That's what I do.