Why build in Quality?

[the Ferret]

Yours shrunk too? Wow, don't know if I want an $800 shrinking jacket or not.

[SanPete_imp]

Speaking of QUALITY.. How is that Vanson leather jacket?

I have an older Vanson leather jacket and the quality is top notch. I dont know how you could make it much better. Problem is, the dang thing shrunk and I cant wear it any longer.

LMAO this is exactly what happened to all my clothes.

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[Romo1969_imp]

It's been queried a few times around these parts as to why any manufacturer would build quality into a motorcycle, seeing as how most owners (me included) never keep them beyond 50,000 miles.

The answer to that is quite simple. The used bike market. Any marque whose bikes fall apart or become unreliable at 50K miles is going to suffer a bad reputation for reliability and durability.

The used bike market is very strong, and in fact, used bike sales have been stronger in recent years ("it's the economy, stoopid" is the usual reason) than have new bike sales.

This thread got me thinking about it:

http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2132

7 grand for the same bike most of us paid over 10 grand for? That is not stoopid. There are a lot of sharp operators who profit from folks like me and Ferret, who off nearly new bikes in perfect condition (yes, I have done this quite a few times).

Lol
Red mist. Are you talking about me? Lol. I like to think of it as benefiting rather than profiting. Being sensible with money is always a smart move. I approach purchases like investments. I like to try and buy low and not necessarily sell high but rather have my investment remain a stable asset as long as possible. In my case I imaging I can sell my bike for about my purchase price for at least a year. Maybe two.


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[Rolls_imp]

I'm not a Wall St. Wolf or asset expert, but when my ass is set in the seat of my CB1100, I'm happy enough.

[Aussieflyer]

I'm not a Wall St. Wolf or asset expert, but when my ass is set in the seat of my CB1100, I'm happy enough.

that's the spirit, well said sir!

[enzo_imp]

So what's this thread about, is it about centre stands, oil, fat people, leather?, FAT BIKES, LEMONS,
or just a bad experience.

[the Ferret]

Not really sure enzo

[Red Mist_imp]

So what's this thread about, is it about centre stands, oil, fat people, leather?, FAT BIKES, LEMONS,
or just a bad experience.

The genesis of this thread was in response to some discussion regarding the merits of using cast-iron cylinder inserts instead of nikasil plating, which then became a discussion about the overall quality of modern motorcycles.

And to be honest, it was a play on the theme of "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." For those who haven't read this book, it is, in brief, a philosophic discussion of the concept of quality.

It is also much more, or much less, depending on who's doing the reading.

With respect to what this or any thread is about, a cursory glance at this forum reveals that the vast preponderance of chatter has little or nothing to do with actually riding or working on motorcycles.

[the Ferret]

With 2/3 of the country still in winters grasp, there isn't a whole lot of meaningful talk about riding or wrenching. CB's have this far proven themselves so reliable we are not talking about fixing them much. The 2013s have been out a year so a lot of the early discussion on those has already taken place. The 2014s aren't here yet so only speculation on them at this point........Things will pick up on that end soon.

In the meantime, we make do.

[calamarichris_imp]

So what's this thread about, is it about centre stands, oil, fat people, leather?, FAT BIKES, LEMONS,
or just a bad experience.

New to the Internet, mate? The best and most informative threads & are the ones that get derailled, re-railled, and re-derailled a few times.
It's a conversation, not an encyclopedia entry.