How do you buy tires/tubes?

[GoldOxide_imp]

Tubeless conversion is a popular topic on ADV forums because the additional requirement for tubes for off-roading adds safety margin, especially when deflating pressures for aggressive terrain (e.g. sometimes below 20 psi).

1. Some on-roaders use a tube in a tubeless tire on a tubed rim. The caveats seems to be it will add unsprung weight, and heat build-up will be higher, faster, longer in the tire. This might limit a safe top speed, and depending on installation, create speed wobble. Many agree to avoid using a heavy duty tube for on-road usage as the internal friction can be too high and cause a rupture (which has been reported).

2. Some off-roaders have put a tube on a tubeless rim (inside a tubeless tire) for extra run-time durability. Same previous on-road high-speed caveat applies as well as tube wall thickness.

[Tev62]

I run a tubeless tyre F&R on my CB1100EX after having it converted by BartFactory http://www.bartfactory.it/marche-e-modelli-moto/honda/ They specifically list the CB1100EX as a bike they do the conversion on.

Before doing so I contacted Bridgestone Technical Services and they supported my use of T31 WITH the inner tube still fitted. As I went down the BartFactory route I did in the end dispense with the inner tube.

To date the conversion has worked well. I lose no more air in these converted wheels than any other bike I own. Very pleased with the increased tyre choice and the wonderful handling I am getting from the T31's albeit with some extra noise on the front.

[peterbaron]

Tubeless conversation is applicable if bike’s rims are tubules ready, safety concern

[Cormanus]

I’m not sure I understand what you mean, peterbaron.

[Jgarciajr40_imp]

For this tire change I’m just gonna go ahead and replace the tubes with Dunlop OEM tubes and Bridgestone BT54s. Simply because the tubes almost 7-8 years old. May keep ‘em as spares if they look good.

The dunlops I can’t find cheaper than $200each; found a set of BT54s for $280 and dunlop tubes for $48.

[inditx_imp]

Unless you’re a serious off roader or race track performer, I would stay tubeless if at all possible.
A flat on or off the road is no fun with a tube.
I admit I still plug and play if the puncture isn’t on the sidewall or something of that nature.
Heck I still ride it with a plug and have done that for years without incident. I know, some will say you’re lucky and biding your time but if the tire is newer and/or not worn to at least half I’m gonna get my money out of it. (Guzzi cheap)
Oh and I don’t ride over the posted limit and not much highway at that.
YMMV
inditx

[GoldOxide_imp]

Tubeless conversation is applicable if bike’s rims are tubules ready, safety concern

Tube type spoked rims are not tubeless ready, yet thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of folks around the world have converted them for tubeless tire use.

You must be thinking of the rim safety bead?

Even without the safety bead, thousands have converted their rims to tubeless use.

[peterbaron]

I’m not sure I understand what you mean, peterbaron.

Tubeless conversation is applicable if bike’s rims are tubules ready, safety concern

Tube type spoked rims are not tubeless ready, yet thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of folks around the world have converted them for tubeless tire use.

You must be thinking of the rim safety bead?

Even without the safety bead, thousands have converted their rims to tubeless use.

Tube type spoked rims are not tubeless ready, yet thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of folks around the world have converted them for tubeless tire use.

You must be thinking of the rim safety bead?

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TY GO, you fixed it.

[GoldOxide_imp]

I’m not sure I understand what you mean, peterbaron.

Tubeless conversation is applicable if bike’s rims are tubules ready, safety concern

Tube type spoked rims are not tubeless ready, yet thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of folks around the world have converted them for tubeless tire use.

You must be thinking of the rim safety bead?

Even without the safety bead, thousands have converted their rims to tubeless use.

Tube type spoked rims are not tubeless ready, yet thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of folks around the world have converted them for tubeless tire use.

You must be thinking of the rim safety bead?

.........
TY GO, you fixed it.

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TY GO, you fixed it.
Tubeless tires can go on those rims.

A risk exists if off-roading and reducing the pressure of the tire for the paths. A sharp edge or pothole could take the bead off with enough force (weight), and speed.

[Ayrshire Dunx_imp]

To answer one of the questions directly, you can put tubes in tubeless tyres on motorbikes and cars. However it does reduce the speed rating of the tyre. On the CB1100 this will not be an issue