Is the CB1100 no more?

[michael1954]

Start savin' up yer pounds folks.

To be honest, I'm a little surprised that Honda UK continue to list the CB1100.

According to the government registrations, there were only 35 2019 EX's registered in 2019 and slightly fewer RS's. In comparison with (for example) the Bonneville T100/T120 these numbers are tiny and probably equal about 5% of Triumph volumes - and that's excluding all the Thruxton/Scrambler Bonneville derivatives...

Having said that according to some British motorcycling press sources (and apologies if this has been seen/discussed in the past), a new CB1100 may be on the horizon.

This report (from July 2019) discusses the potential introduction of a Euro 5 compliant version...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/ne...nda-cb1100

To be honest, I'm a little surprised that Honda UK continue to list the CB1100.

According to the government registrations, there were only 35 2019 EX's registered in 2019 and slightly fewer RS's. In comparison with (for example) the Bonneville T100/T120 these numbers are tiny and probably equal about 5% of Triumph volumes - and that's excluding all the Thruxton/Scrambler Bonneville derivatives...

Having said that according to some British motorcycling press sources (and apologies if this has been seen/discussed in the past), a new CB1100 may be on the horizon.

This report (from July 2019) discusses the potential introduction of a Euro 5 compliant version...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/ne...nda-cb1100

To be honest, I'm a little surprised that Honda UK continue to list the CB1100.

According to the government registrations, there were only 35 2019 EX's registered in 2019 and slightly fewer RS's. In comparison with (for example) the Bonneville T100/T120 these numbers are tiny and probably equal about 5% of Triumph volumes - and that's excluding all the Thruxton/Scrambler Bonneville derivatives...

Having said that according to some British motorcycling press sources (and apologies if this has been seen/discussed in the past), a new CB1100 may be on the horizon.

This report (from July 2019) discusses the potential introduction of a Euro 5 compliant version...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/ne...nda-cb1100 Apologies. Bit clunky this post of mine. Sausage fingers. What I was trying to write is that I've just bought a new 2019 EX because (it seems to me) that the days of the CB are nearly over (in the UK anyway). With Euro 5 & 6 looming fast. There's a fair few on the used market here but the pool of new ones seems to be getting smaller all the time. The Honda dealer I'm using says there are no more coming. I had an itch to try out Moto Guzzi, so over the last 6 months or so I have been running around on them. Nice bikes but my heart/head is with the CB so decided to get one while I still can. The Guzzi has been traded.

I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.

So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.

I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try?

I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.

So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.

I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try? I did just that. Bought a 2017 CB1100EX about 3 weeks ago with only 1200 miles on it. My 2013, has about 7400 miles. Still a babe to me. I will keep them both, and long with my 2018 Kawasaki Z900RS, they may be the last bikes I ever buy. If I buy even one more, it is going to be a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 in Red and black.
I too, wished I had bought my 2013 CB new, but I have been riding since 1969, and always wanted a CB750. I can still ride and will ride for the rest of my life. Now if Honda will just release the Blacked out CB1100 RS here, I will own 3 CB1100's!

[bioman_imp]

That Griso looks awesome... I wanted to ride one when I was buying the CB but there aren't many around. A comparo write up against the CB would be interesting.
In regards to HP, it depends where you are riding, back when I had the 500 we were living rural, small roads with lots of tight corners, a bit of gravel, no highways. For sure the 1100 doesn't go great on gravel, but it is less fun on even the small sealed roads than the 500 was I rekon.
We moved, still rural, some corners, but a 25km stretch of expressway that I travel to work and back on. The 1100 is far better suited and could use a few more HP at times.
We don't really have the long distance highway riding here like in the US, most rides you have to chuck her around a few corners to get where your going.
I have found the 1100 has mellowed out my riding a bit, makes me feel like a gentleman riding her .

Here is my test report after riding a Griso

http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8989

I liked your write-up! I also liked Rboe's comment:


That is exactly how I feel: I have a perfect marriage with my CB1100, while at the same time have an affair with a wild mistress: the Griso!

[Richard_imp]

Start savin' up yer pounds folks.

To be honest, I'm a little surprised that Honda UK continue to list the CB1100.

According to the government registrations, there were only 35 2019 EX's registered in 2019 and slightly fewer RS's. In comparison with (for example) the Bonneville T100/T120 these numbers are tiny and probably equal about 5% of Triumph volumes - and that's excluding all the Thruxton/Scrambler Bonneville derivatives...

Having said that according to some British motorcycling press sources (and apologies if this has been seen/discussed in the past), a new CB1100 may be on the horizon.

This report (from July 2019) discusses the potential introduction of a Euro 5 compliant version...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/ne...nda-cb1100

To be honest, I'm a little surprised that Honda UK continue to list the CB1100.

According to the government registrations, there were only 35 2019 EX's registered in 2019 and slightly fewer RS's. In comparison with (for example) the Bonneville T100/T120 these numbers are tiny and probably equal about 5% of Triumph volumes - and that's excluding all the Thruxton/Scrambler Bonneville derivatives...

Having said that according to some British motorcycling press sources (and apologies if this has been seen/discussed in the past), a new CB1100 may be on the horizon.

This report (from July 2019) discusses the potential introduction of a Euro 5 compliant version...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/ne...nda-cb1100

To be honest, I'm a little surprised that Honda UK continue to list the CB1100.

According to the government registrations, there were only 35 2019 EX's registered in 2019 and slightly fewer RS's. In comparison with (for example) the Bonneville T100/T120 these numbers are tiny and probably equal about 5% of Triumph volumes - and that's excluding all the Thruxton/Scrambler Bonneville derivatives...

Having said that according to some British motorcycling press sources (and apologies if this has been seen/discussed in the past), a new CB1100 may be on the horizon.

This report (from July 2019) discusses the potential introduction of a Euro 5 compliant version...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/ne...nda-cb1100 Apologies. Bit clunky this post of mine. Sausage fingers. What I was trying to write is that I've just bought a new 2019 EX because (it seems to me) that the days of the CB are nearly over (in the UK anyway). With Euro 5 & 6 looming fast. There's a fair few on the used market here but the pool of new ones seems to be getting smaller all the time. The Honda dealer I'm using says there are no more coming. I had an itch to try out Moto Guzzi, so over the last 6 months or so I have been running around on them. Nice bikes but my heart/head is with the CB so decided to get one while I still can. The Guzzi has been traded.

I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.

So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.

I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try?

I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.

So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.

I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try? I did just that. Bought a 2017 CB1100EX about 3 weeks ago with only 1200 miles on it. My 2013, has about 7400 miles. Still a babe to me. I will keep them both, and long with my 2018 Kawasaki Z900RS, they may be the last bikes I ever buy. If I buy even one more, it is going to be a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 in Red and black.
I too, wished I had bought my 2013 CB new, but I have been riding since 1969, and always wanted a CB750. I can still ride and will ride for the rest of my life. Now if Honda will just release the Blacked out CB1100 RS here, I will own 3 CB1100's!

Sounds like we are on the same page when it comes to the bikes we like. The Speed Twin (in red and black) was a very close competitor when I was choosing my CB1100. In the end, I got a great deal on the CB and that probably pushed my decision. On top of that, the Speed Twin is a slightly more "frantic" ride - one of those bike that urges you to go faster.

However, when you get one, make sure it has the V&H pipes as they look far better than stock (imo).

Enjoy your ride.

[Dave Swanson]

you know it's a shame when a factory puts out a product that doesnt come close to meeting its potential. the 2006 Yamaha FZ-1 comes to mind, as does the first year Yamaha FZ-09. both bikes had such horrible fueling issues as to be nearly unridable. Sounds like the Griso falls into that category as well. Fixable for $100? why in the world didnt Guzzi do it as a freebie recall? crazy.

would welcome the opportunity to ride a sorted one.

The $100 map is an unofficial map not authorized by Moto Guzzi, but it does wonders.

I must mention that a good tune is also necessary. Careful balancing of the throttle bodies and a slight tightening of the valve lash from the factory spec is necessary to take full advantage of the map.

The valve lash lash change has also been proven over many thousands of testing miles. The $100 map from Beetle will not perform at it's optimum without the valve lash change.

The end result is a complete transformation of smoothness of the engine! I can't really describe just how good the 1200 8V motor becomes after these changes.

I do think the crap stock map limited sales of the 1200 8V CARC models. Most potential buyers riding it in stock tune without any knowledge of how easy it is to transform the bike into something really special would turn their nose up.

[motoWest_imp]

I'm sad to see that the CB is gone, but I can't say that I'm surprised. All of the dealers I spoke with told me they had a real hard time moving them.

[GoldOxide_imp]

The CB1100 is an incredibly good quality bike. It is hard to move them in Canada.

[pekingduck]

Looking back at an earlier post in this thread, I noticed something interesting in this link:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/ne...nda-cb1100


Noticed the blueprints show what looks to be provisions for a rubber-mounted front engine mount. The old 1992 GSX1100G had the same, and probably other inline fours, and I remember riding it and thinking it was smoother than anything I'd ridden, including a Gold Wing and a CBX.

[peterbaron]

PG, will you speculate about newer, a rubber-mounted front engine mount CB ???

[pekingduck]

PG, will you speculate about newer, a rubber-mounted front engine mount CB ???

Can't speculate as there may be a tsunami coming to American Honda soon.........

[Guth_imp]

A few comments...

To Dave S:
I really love the exhaust note of the stock MG V7. I have never ridden one of these bikes but even it that were the case I can't imagine any of the V7's other positive traits displacing that one at the top of the list for me. Speaking of exhausts and MG's — as far as the Griso is concerned when it comes to the overall look, your exhaust modifications (I'm assuming those are the stock headers) has pulled off a minor miracle as far as I'm concerned. I actually like the looks of the Griso in stock form, with the exception the exhaust can(faux-cans?). If I owned a Griso myself I would definitely be on the lookout for an exhaust very similar to the one you've installed. Man, what a difference for the better that makes. Nicely done.

To the ferret, et al.:
I can appreciate the mention of the ideal horsepower / torque spec for each individual and the impact those elements can have on how enjoyable, or fun, a motorcycle can be for each of us. I can also appreciate the mention of the differences in the characteristics of power delivery that exist from one engine design to the next — along with the impact this can have upon each of us from an enjoyment standpoint as well. That each of these points would be raised in such a discussion does not surprise me. However, what I am surprised by is that no one brought up the impact that the horsepower / weight ratio plays in addition to these other things. Was there a conscious reason behind this omission? (In other words, is there something that I am not considering or am overlooking when camping in this part of the forest?)