ABS vs Not

[ChipBeck_imp]

Chip not entirely true, but close. my ST 1300 has the LBSII system by Honda and it sucks. Many ST and Goldwing owners have had issues with theirs and Honda issued a recall on the Goldwings. No such luck on the STs yet though. Because of this I specifically wanted the simpler non ABS unit CB.

The CB however appears to have the simpler LBS system which acts as you described.


A combined braking system (CBS), also called linked braking system (LBS), is a system for linking front and rear brakes on a motorcycle or scooter.[1] In this system, the rider's action of depressing one of the brake levers applies both front and rear brakes. The amount of each brake applied may be determined by a proportional control valve.

BMW Motorrad uses a system called Integral ABS, in which the front brake lever operates both the front and rear brakes, while the brake pedal operates only the rear brake.


In the inverse, Honda's system that features both combined brakes and Anti-lock brakes is dubbed Combined ABS. In this system, it is the rear brake pedal that operates both front and rear brake, where the front brake lever operates only the front calipers.

Honda made several variations of the LBS system with differing levels of complexity and integration. The CBR1100XX featured what Honda called LBS II, a system where both levers would activate both brakes through a system of secondary pistons and proportioning/delay valves. One front brake caliper was connected to a secondary master cylinder, and the caliper was allowed to rotate slightly to apply pressure to the piston in that secondary master cylinder. Braking force was translated into pressure that was sent to the rear brake cylinder. Only the two outer pistons in the front brake calipers were directly activated by the brake lever; the center piston received pressure from the rear pedal via the proprtioning valve

Are you sure? The info I posted came from Rider Magazine's test of a C-ABS CB1100 and the copy read.......
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"Our test bike had the optional Combined Braking System/Anti-Lock Brakes (C-ABS), which uses 3-piston calipers up front and accounts for 9 of the bike’s 542 pounds fully fueled, as well as $1,000 of the MSRP. The C-ABS actuates one piston in each front caliper when the rear brake pedal is pressed to insure you’re always getting some front braking. Having it and the anti-lock feature is reassuring, and it all works quite well, though I am curious if shedding the option would give the front brake the extra bite it could use."
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If anybody could catch a magazine mistake I would put my money on Ferret but I have read in two different publications that only the rear brake pedal activates both front and rear brakes on the CB1100 and that the front brake handlebar lever activates only the front brake. Would a shop manual have that info? Magazines are often wrong.

Chip