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Ethanol vs. Your Engine
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(03-30-2015, 11:12 PM)DGShannon_imp Wrote:
(03-30-2015, 08:57 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Ok, a couple of points. The title of this thread is ethanol vs your engine. Up to 10% ethanol is approved for use in my motorcycle's engine. It's right there in black and white in my owners manual. If the government would mandate 20% ethanol, I would not put it in my motorcycle. It is not approved for that. It also says that right there in black and white in my owners manual. I'm pretty sure if I went out to my motorcycle right now, fired it up on the gas thats in the tank, and rode off I would run out of gas and be pushing before finding a station that carried gas without ethanol. Even if I could find it here, what chance would I have making it from Ohio all the way to North Carolina for the rally without running out of gas before finding a station that served gas without ethanol? I rode out to California last year and don't believe I stopped at a single station serving straight gas out or back. What are the chances that the government is going to back pedal, eliminate ethanol and go back to straight gas? ZERO! Absolutely zero. So like it, hate it, ambivalent about it, either way we are stuck with it. So why would I spend one nano second of my life worrying about it?

What's that saying? Give me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference?

On this, I would have to disagree. "ZERO" chance only comes with ZERO fight. It may well fail, but there is always some chance, as long as we the people stay in the battle. Many would have said that there was ZERO chance that legalized marijuana or gay marriage would ever come about, but look where that is headed. There are ongoing efforts by republican and democrat, in multiple states, trying to reel in methanol, even if only to arrest it at 10%, until folks better understand the fiasco we are headed for. Hopefully, eventually, and with enough public resistance, it just might change.

You said "If the government would mandate 20% ethanol, I would not put it in my motorcycle." What would you put in it then? If you can't locate a gas station today without 10% (just as I can't) what are you planning to do when you can't locate one with less than 20%?

You might be correct in predicting that "straight gas" won't return. But, fighting to hold on to the widespread availability of 10% (not sent through blender pumps that cannot distribute small quantities of 10% for motorcycles, gas cans, etc.) so I can continue to ride my CB, and other motorcycles not designed for it, is very much worth spending a nano second of my life worrying about.

On this, I would have to disagree. "ZERO" chance only comes with ZERO fight. It may well fail, but there is always some chance, as long as we the people stay in the battle. Many would have said that there was ZERO chance that legalized marijuana or gay marriage would ever come about, but look where that is headed. There are ongoing efforts by republican and democrat, in multiple states, trying to reel in methanol, even if only to arrest it at 10%, until folks better understand the fiasco we are headed for. Hopefully, eventually, and with enough public resistance, it just might change.

You said "If the government would mandate 20% ethanol, I would not put it in my motorcycle." What would you put in it then? If you can't locate a gas station today without 10% (just as I can't) what are you planning to do when you can't locate one with less than 20%?

You might be correct in predicting that "straight gas" won't return. But, fighting to hold on to the widespread availability of 10% (not sent through blender pumps that cannot distribute small quantities of 10% for motorcycles, gas cans, etc.) so I can continue to ride my CB, and other motorcycles not designed for it, is very much worth spending a nano second of my life worrying about.
Try this site to locate pure gas
http://pure-gas.org/
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Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by fiscy_imp - 03-23-2015, 09:59 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ClassicVW_imp - 03-24-2015, 12:03 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Django - 03-24-2015, 12:52 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-24-2015, 01:19 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ClassicVW_imp - 03-24-2015, 03:10 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Django - 03-24-2015, 05:37 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-24-2015, 08:04 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-24-2015, 08:17 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Dakota_imp - 03-26-2015, 12:12 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ChipBeck_imp - 03-26-2015, 05:06 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Scoobynut_imp - 03-27-2015, 01:06 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ClassicVW_imp - 03-27-2015, 03:29 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Chapomis_imp - 03-27-2015, 03:34 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ClassicVW_imp - 03-27-2015, 03:57 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-27-2015, 05:36 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Chapomis_imp - 03-27-2015, 07:06 AM
Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Cormanus - 03-27-2015, 07:18 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-27-2015, 07:26 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Chapomis_imp - 03-27-2015, 07:27 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-27-2015, 07:54 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-27-2015, 09:05 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by gossman_imp - 03-27-2015, 09:31 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Flynrider_imp - 03-27-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by DGShannon_imp - 03-30-2015, 06:17 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-30-2015, 09:38 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Lord Popgun - 03-30-2015, 09:50 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Chapomis_imp - 03-30-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by fiscy_imp - 03-30-2015, 12:08 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-30-2015, 08:57 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Chapomis_imp - 03-30-2015, 09:40 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by CIP57_imp - 03-30-2015, 09:51 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by DGShannon_imp - 03-30-2015, 11:12 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Scoobynut_imp - 03-31-2015, 01:18 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by fiscy_imp - 03-31-2015, 10:04 AM
Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Cormanus - 03-31-2015, 10:18 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by fiscy_imp - 03-31-2015, 10:26 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 03-31-2015, 10:29 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ride4now_imp - 03-31-2015, 12:00 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by twiin640_imp - 06-11-2015, 08:45 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ChipBeck_imp - 06-11-2015, 10:03 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by CIP57_imp - 06-11-2015, 10:34 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by fiscy_imp - 06-12-2015, 08:29 AM
Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Cormanus - 06-12-2015, 07:20 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by twiin640_imp - 06-12-2015, 10:58 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by twiin640_imp - 06-13-2015, 01:09 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by cbdtran_imp - 07-04-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by DaSwami_imp - 07-05-2015, 04:05 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Lord Popgun - 07-05-2015, 10:26 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 07-05-2015, 10:47 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by kennyw - 07-06-2015, 12:14 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Southwend - 07-06-2015, 03:14 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ChipBeck_imp - 07-06-2015, 04:47 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by redbirds_imp - 07-06-2015, 09:57 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 07-07-2015, 01:00 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by kennyw - 07-07-2015, 04:01 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Lord Popgun - 07-07-2015, 04:12 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 07-07-2015, 04:31 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by EmptySea_imp - 07-07-2015, 04:57 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by kennyw - 07-07-2015, 06:18 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Wisedrum - 07-07-2015, 06:28 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by AndyHe_imp - 07-07-2015, 07:45 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by EmptySea_imp - 07-07-2015, 10:48 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by Southwend - 07-07-2015, 12:35 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 07-07-2015, 08:24 PM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ChipBeck_imp - 07-08-2015, 04:10 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by redbirds_imp - 07-08-2015, 04:16 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by ChipBeck_imp - 07-08-2015, 06:36 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by DaSwami_imp - 07-09-2015, 02:00 AM
RE: Ethanol vs. Your Engine - by the Ferret - 07-09-2015, 08:24 PM

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