08-17-2014, 02:04 PM
Damn it to hell and back, Pterodactyl, if you're going to recant, where's the fun? Stick to your guns. Us wimps aren't good and true bikers. It's the stuff of a great debate.
I accept your point. In the first hypothetical the dude was riding the bike and must accept responsibility for mis-handling the corner. She can probably fairly say, "Geezalou (thanks for that expression, Ferret) I didn't expect that bloody rock/gravel/diesel to be there." But it is reasonable for her to acknowledge that she chose to ride a bike and that was a risk.
I also accept the point of the second, although, given that nothing is ever truly simple (except what oil to put in your bike) I think the second rider could be justified in being pissed off at the car driver, even if he or she must, at the same time acknowledge it was an occupational hazard.
I wouldn't encourage our 'concerned and caring' society to take this issue on any further than it has. I mean, we already have compulsory training before and after a person receives their learner's permit and restrictions on the kinds of bikes people can ride until they have an open license. That's enough. A concerned and caring society would have more people out of cages on bikes to reduce congestion and the rapid consumption of fossil fuel as part of the inevitable progression to getting us all pedalling.
Thanks for the offer of
. Don't mind if I do.
I accept your point. In the first hypothetical the dude was riding the bike and must accept responsibility for mis-handling the corner. She can probably fairly say, "Geezalou (thanks for that expression, Ferret) I didn't expect that bloody rock/gravel/diesel to be there." But it is reasonable for her to acknowledge that she chose to ride a bike and that was a risk.
I also accept the point of the second, although, given that nothing is ever truly simple (except what oil to put in your bike) I think the second rider could be justified in being pissed off at the car driver, even if he or she must, at the same time acknowledge it was an occupational hazard.
I wouldn't encourage our 'concerned and caring' society to take this issue on any further than it has. I mean, we already have compulsory training before and after a person receives their learner's permit and restrictions on the kinds of bikes people can ride until they have an open license. That's enough. A concerned and caring society would have more people out of cages on bikes to reduce congestion and the rapid consumption of fossil fuel as part of the inevitable progression to getting us all pedalling.
Thanks for the offer of
. Don't mind if I do.