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How dealers lose the sale
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(12-27-2017, 10:32 AM)Guth_imp Wrote:
(12-27-2017, 05:20 AM)Beerman_imp Wrote:
(12-23-2017, 09:21 AM)Guth_imp Wrote: Reading over this thread, I feel fortunate that I did not have to deal with the most of the issues being discussed. I did not hesitate to pay full price for my CB1100. There were no test rides involved, nor did I ask for one as I had ordered my CB before they had even arrived here in North America. As soon as I saw the photos of the bike that [url=https://rideapart.com/articles/honda-cb1100-spied-in-california]a Honda rep was "test riding" in California (long before Honda officially announced that they were going to release the CB1100 here) I just knew that it was what I wanted. I was never looking for anything more than what Honda had intended — a basic, but high quality retro standard that was was built with great attention to detail much in the tradition of a number of their classic CBs of the past.

That probably made things much easier (simpler) for me. I've never once worried about the price that I paid, nor have I wanted to trade my CB in on a newer model or for some other ride. I'm glad that I bought when I did as no version released since the original has held as much appeal for me. I can admire newer bikes that are being offered by other manufacturers, but none of these offerings have caused me to like my CB any less. While my CB1100 hasn't been perfect, I can still say that it's been great. I'm grateful that I still feel this way about "my bike". Preparing my CB for sitting idle this winter has made me realize that I myself am ready to come out of my "riding hibernation". I'm once again looking forward to jumping back on my bike when the right opportunity next presents itself.

With that in mind, I really feel for those of you that would like to purchase a CB1100 under your own terms and can't even find a dealer to at least work with you to some degree. I wish it weren't this way. It's a bummer to hear that this is how it is for so many who might otherwise also find enjoyment in the CB1100.
There's a philosophy in here that I rather admire - probably applies to more than just bikes.

Beerman

Well, it's certainly held true with me and vehicles. I've tended to focus on those vehicles that
A.)I really liked the looks of, and
B.)Truly sounded like they would fit my needs based on how I planned to use them

As a result, I've been pretty happy with most of my vehicles. I try to take good care of them and do as much work on them myself as I can. For these reasons, even though they are just objects, I do typically end up forming a bond of sorts with my vehicles and hang on to them for a fairly lengthy period of time. I'm coming up on the sixth year of ownership of my 2001 Toyota Tundra — I plan to drive it for many more years to come. I hung on to both vehicles that I owned before the Tundra for at least a decade each. I ultimately ended up selling my 1989 Toyota Pickup to my brother and my 1999 Audi A4 has been passed along to my son. I have very little doubt that the 2005 Honda S2000 purchased earlier this year will be sticking around for a very long time as I've become quite enamored with it.

I don't have as many motorcycle ownership stories since I stopped riding them right after high school. When I returned to motorcycling almost 30 years later, I purchased the only bike that had actually lured me back into a motorcycle dealer during my dry spell — a 1988 Honda Hawk GT. Now after more than a decade of ownership, I really should be selling it (I really planned to do so last fall) as I have accumulated too many vehicles at this time. I'm hoping that the Hawk ends up with someone else who will appreciate it for what it is just as I have. There are a few reasons why I did not end up selling it this year, certainly one reason being that I've grown quite fond of it, and I'll be sad to see it go. (And yes, I realize that it's only a "thing", lol.)

I've long been a fan of Honda products in particular for a variety of reasons. I've owned a good number of them over the years. Honda is very good at engineering and manufacturing products that have generally proven to be highly reliable. It is those projects that are obviously special to Honda (that typically end up being a few steps removed from their mainstream offerings) that I find so appealing. When this company decides to pay tribute to it's heritage, the results are generally very intriguing to me.

As with Honda S2000, the story behind the CB1100 really sucked me in. I was very impressed with Honda's willingness to create a new air-cooled engine, their first in over 20 years, just for this motorcycle. I don't think Honda was ever that concerned about how many CB1100s they would sell. While they obviously produced the CB1100 to be sold to the public, I believe that Honda was most concerned with Honda themselves (as opposed to the general public) when it came to developing this motorcycle. Over time, the CB1100 has evolved to reflect what more of what the public, or those outside of Honda, wanted in a retro machine (again, the CB1100 is very similar to the S2000 in this regard). While I think that the bike that Honda originally released in 2010 was a better reflection of what they themselves wanted to do, whether you're looking at a CB1100 from 2010 or from 2017, I think that you're looking at something that is pretty special. It was the same with the S2000 — I would say that the first generation of that machine was the truest to Honda's vision of what the car should be and it morphed over time to suit the general public. Every model year has it's own fans, but most all would agree that any S2000 is special.

I suppose Honda can get away with projects like these given their sheer size. I'll probably always view (and value) the CB1100 differently because of this take on things. I already viewed it as a special bike before I even got my hands on one, and owning one hasn't changed this opinion.

While I've been lucky with vehicles in this regard, there was a period of time where I went through guitars and stereo equipment like nobody's business. Cheaper than swapping motorcycles in and out all the time, but probably not by all that much as it turns out. Ironically, I have found that the less time I spend on the web reading about everything from bikes to cars to stereos and guitars, the happier I am with what it is I already own.

Ironically, I have found that the less time I spend on the web reading about everything from bikes to cars to stereos and guitars, the happier I am with what it is I already own.
Now isn't that just right!Thumbs Up
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How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 12-22-2017, 09:02 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-22-2017, 09:12 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-22-2017, 09:18 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-22-2017, 09:34 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Django - 12-22-2017, 09:43 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 12-22-2017, 09:51 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-22-2017, 12:31 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-22-2017, 12:33 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-22-2017, 06:45 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Rocky_imp - 12-22-2017, 09:04 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by paulw_imp - 12-22-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 12-22-2017, 11:28 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Nortoon_imp - 12-23-2017, 03:42 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-23-2017, 04:57 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-23-2017, 05:11 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by 2017EX_imp - 12-23-2017, 05:30 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-23-2017, 07:09 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-23-2017, 08:37 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 12-23-2017, 09:17 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-23-2017, 09:21 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-24-2017, 06:58 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by tate_imp - 12-24-2017, 09:18 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-24-2017, 11:41 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-24-2017, 01:48 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-25-2017, 06:17 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by egleaves_imp - 12-27-2017, 04:16 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-27-2017, 05:07 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by egleaves_imp - 12-27-2017, 05:15 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 12-27-2017, 05:20 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-27-2017, 10:32 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-27-2017, 12:07 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-27-2017, 01:20 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-27-2017, 01:43 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-27-2017, 01:53 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-27-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-27-2017, 05:05 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-27-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 12-27-2017, 09:27 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-27-2017, 11:50 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-28-2017, 01:37 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-28-2017, 09:56 AM
How dealers lose the sale - by Capo_imp - 12-28-2017, 11:18 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-28-2017, 12:09 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-28-2017, 12:37 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-28-2017, 12:54 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 12-28-2017, 07:25 PM
How dealers lose the sale - by Capo_imp - 12-29-2017, 01:09 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-29-2017, 01:49 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by emullick_imp - 12-29-2017, 04:10 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-30-2017, 12:34 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-30-2017, 12:55 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by emullick_imp - 12-30-2017, 07:24 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-30-2017, 09:56 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-30-2017, 02:35 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-30-2017, 05:19 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by reinie_imp - 12-31-2017, 12:24 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-31-2017, 01:34 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-31-2017, 02:27 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-31-2017, 03:48 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-31-2017, 05:16 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-31-2017, 05:51 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-31-2017, 07:52 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Banned_imp - 12-31-2017, 08:02 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-31-2017, 10:22 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-31-2017, 11:27 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-31-2017, 12:44 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 12-31-2017, 12:58 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 12-31-2017, 01:08 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 12-31-2017, 02:51 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 12-31-2017, 03:03 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 01-01-2018, 12:48 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 01-01-2018, 02:11 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 01-01-2018, 02:17 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Nortoon_imp - 01-01-2018, 02:29 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 01-01-2018, 03:35 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 01-01-2018, 07:58 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Beerman_imp - 01-01-2018, 09:16 AM
How dealers lose the sale - by Capo_imp - 01-01-2018, 09:34 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by emullick_imp - 01-01-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by WRXer_imp - 01-01-2018, 02:38 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 01-04-2018, 12:43 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 01-04-2018, 01:16 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by VLJ_imp - 01-05-2018, 06:25 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Nortoon_imp - 01-06-2018, 03:27 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 01-06-2018, 06:23 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by EmptySea_imp - 01-06-2018, 09:42 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 01-06-2018, 10:01 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by EmptySea_imp - 01-06-2018, 10:03 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Lord Popgun - 01-06-2018, 10:29 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 01-06-2018, 10:39 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Lord Popgun - 01-06-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 01-06-2018, 11:07 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by the Ferret - 01-06-2018, 12:15 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Lord Popgun - 01-06-2018, 01:02 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Nortoon_imp - 01-06-2018, 03:50 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Guth_imp - 01-06-2018, 06:12 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by alprider - 01-06-2018, 08:18 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Nortoon_imp - 01-07-2018, 08:22 AM
How dealers lose the sale - by adventureAF_imp - 01-07-2018, 08:43 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Cormanus - 01-09-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Nortoon_imp - 01-10-2018, 03:34 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by redbirds_imp - 01-10-2018, 04:29 AM
RE: How dealers lose the sale - by Rboe_imp - 01-10-2018, 08:52 AM

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