01-16-2018, 02:06 PM
(01-16-2018, 12:51 PM)VLJ_imp Wrote: I was sort of involved in the discussion with Ulvetanna that Guth and EmptySea referenced. I didn't interpret anything Ulvetanna said as an accusation that Guth endeavors to bump up the forum's membership or post totals by trying to convince people to buy a CB1100. Not at all. In his own inimitable manner, Ulvetanna was simply discussing what EmptySea correctly just described as the ebb and flow of the board.
Unless I missed something, Ulvetanna neither stated nor implied anything accusatory, so I was surprised by Guth's angry reaction. Apparently Ulvetanna has a bit of a history here, and perhaps that has something to do with certain people's reactions to him. I don't know. I just know that I value his perspective, and enjoy his candor. A model-specific message board sans frankness and call-it-like-you-see-it honesty is really nothing more than an extremely lengthy brochure.
Along those same lines, I greatly appreciate Guth's efforts here. I didn't realize this wasn't mickey's board. Before I signed up here, I was under the mistaken impression that this site was mickey's love-child. No fault of mickey's there, either. I just assumed, incorrectly. Now I see that it's Guth's place, and Cormanus and mickey are his trusted lieutenants.
Good choices there, I must say.
Lastly, I get that the Powers That Be here don't want this place to become a mud-slinging smack board. No problem there. That being said, and I mentioned this to mickey, I do think that the language-nanny censorship here goes a bit overboard. It's just my opinion, and I'm not in charge. I will abide by the rules, yet they do seem draconian to the point of being borderline childish, as if Ned Flanders is conducting a Sunday school class for six-year-olds. An example I gave mickey is the word 'hell.' That word is not a curse. It's not an epithet. It's not an invective. It's neither vulgar nor crass. 'Hell' is simply and literally a proper noun, no different from 'heaven,' 'Laguna Seca,' or 'CB1100.' There is no reason such a word needs censoring, especially when used in proper context.
Anyway, that was my one and only nit to pick. Otherwise, this place kicks Assen. <----- just for mickey!
Oh, make no mistake, this is definitely Mickey's board.
We all know that Mickey is the lifeblood of this place, I'm just the guy that got it up and running and turns an occasional wrench on the place (and not always with the greatest of success). But Mickey was indeed one of the biggest inspirations for me to launch this forum. I'll be honest with you all — when I launched this place I posted up over on the "the CB1100 thread" (the one on ADVrider forum) to let "the guys" know. I kept a pretty close eye on the member list to see if "The other ferret" had yet joined. I was actually a bit worried when the first day had passed and he hadn't signed up. By the time I checked in on the second day I was relieved to see that "The ferret" had become a member (man I would have been disappointed if "the ferret" had turned out to not to be one-in-the-same as "the other ferret", lol). At that point knew that things would start rolling. That's the honest truth and while I've told my wife this story, I'm not sure that I've ever told Mickey this before. (I hope your helmet still fits after this buddy.)
As far as the language enforcement goes, well what can I say? I realize that I can't tell you to just... well nevermind.
Look, there are plenty of times amongst friends where my language is sometimes even an embarrassment even to myself if I stop to think about it. I try to work on improving myself in that regard. At times I'm about as sarcastic as they come. The thing is, my friends are right there with me and they know exactly how the words I'm using were intended (most of the time anyway). We simply just don't have that luxury online. Plus we have members here from across the globe (who work very hard to communicate in english for monoglots such as myself). This language can be confusing enough as it is. So with all of that in mind, I'd much rather be accused of being too conservative on this particular issue than the other way around. After almost five years, this forum has a definitely established a certain "personality". Those that enjoy it tend to stick around and those that don't tend to leave. I wouldn't have it any other way (as long as Mickey and Cormanus agree that is).