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Checked with my brother tonight at dinner, no jiggles in his needles on his T-120. Also told him one of you guys said there was an ECU reflash to fix the stalling problem. he's going to call the dealer and check.

That's what the current service bulletin is supposed to do. I don't think it's quite a recall, not sure.

You guys can't be serious about the Triumph gauges, really?

Serious. Absolutely true, I couldn't believe my eyes at first; "Those needles are jiggling?" There's no way needles in a modern electronic gage jiggle, they're damped and well-controlled. The Street Cup's bounce like the old-school gages. Not hard to program. It's funny.

Serious. Absolutely true, I couldn't believe my eyes at first; "Those needles are jiggling?" There's no way needles in a modern electronic gage jiggle, they're damped and well-controlled. The Street Cup's bounce like the old-school gages. Not hard to program. It's funny.

The CB was purposely designed to have an uneven, lumpy idle and off idle engine ‘character’ so it would be more like the old ones. Bouncy needles are a piece of cake compared to that.



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It's interesting that you would bring this up Capo as I was reminded of this very thing when I read about Triumph's gauges. I have to say that that I simply don't appreciate these marketing driven decisions. Such things must drive engineers absolutely bonkers. Whether it's Honda trying to develop "character" into their otherwise wonderful modern air-cooled inline four cylinder engine or Triumph trying to cause their gauges to vibrate or their fuel injection to look like carbs or claiming the cylinder fins on their water cooled bikes to be purposeful (Kawasaki can now also be included with this group), it's all rather sad in my book. Honestly, I find it all to be a bunch of marketing-driven BS. None of these things needed to be done, but manufacturers must feel that these things are needed as a way to get old, nostalgic guys to part ways with their money. Maybe they're right, but I personally could do without any of these things and would have much more respect for these companies if they'd just skip this sort of nonsense.

It's interesting that you would bring this up Capo as I was reminded of this very thing when I read about Triumph's gauges. I have to say that that I simply don't appreciate these marketing driven decisions. Such things must drive engineers absolutely bonkers. Whether it's Honda trying to develop "character" into their otherwise wonderful modern air-cooled inline four cylinder engine or Triumph trying to cause their gauges to vibrate or their fuel injection to look like carbs or claiming the cylinder fins on their water cooled bikes to be purposeful (Kawasaki can now also be included with this group), it's all rather sad in my book. Honestly, I find it all to be a bunch of marketing-driven BS. None of these things needed to be done, but manufacturers must feel that these things are needed as a way to get old, nostalgic guys to part ways with their money. Maybe they're right, but I personally could do without any of these things and would have much more respect for these companies if they'd just skip this sort of nonsense. It's what Millennials want. They don't have any idea of what actually makes anything function. They like cassette tapes, and vinyl records, and all that junk because certain kinds of old school are very cool. Those are the people buying most stuff now.

I know one young guy who was going to go do his demo album by first recording all the tracks on 2" 24-track tape and then transferring it to digital. I told him to skip it, the digital is so good now the extra step is not needed. But studios keep these old dinosaurs around to attract customers who just think old stuff is cool.

These younger folks are social-media driven. They will flock to an unknown hot dog joint and wait in line a couple hours, taking selfies and checking social media status all the while, not even knowing if the hot dog is any good.

Everything is driven by style and popularity now.

I notice that the Millennials in my neighborhood seem to be making more money this year, and they're probably going to spend every cent on having fun. I doubt many will put aside a nickel. Also they frequently have huge student loan debts to pay off, which are far from being paid at present.

So a bike that looks cool, seems to do the watusi, and has the right branding will sell.

I am happy that despite the silly gage jiggling and fins that are said to help with cooling (the physics of it means they have to do at least some work) the Triumphs I have are absolutely stellar motorcycles in every meaningful way.