02-17-2018, 01:46 AM
(02-16-2018, 04:22 PM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Guth, why on earth are you going to get rid of a Hawk GT? Those things were so seriously cool, and now there's nothing else like them.
I really loved those things.
Ulvetanna, yes, I suspect that the brake squealing will eventually go away. If it doesn't, I'll have the dealer remedy it under warranty. This is the first of my twenty-five or so bikes that has had any brake squeal. It doesn't really matter much, except that it's the lone fly in the ointment of what is otherwise a functionally perfect motorcycle to me. I just want that one imperfection gone, is all.
As for steel lines and HH pads, they aren't on my radar at the moment. I immediately slapped them onto the XSR, as the stock brakes felt a bit dull to me. Not so, with this '17 EX. Squeals aside, I have no complaints. Perhaps, as you say, they could be even better, but I certainly don't need them to be better.
I'm taking her on another two-day right up the coast next Tuesday and Wednesday, and I will again hit Skaggs Spring Rd, so we'll see. I'll pay particular attention to the brakes that entire ride.
I had one; my 2017 SV650 is the closest thing to that bike in terms of handling. VERY similar. But the Hawk GT handled better. SV is much faster though. I love the V-twin in a bike like that. Supreme.
If that bike is well-cared for it should be worth more than one might expect as it's a cult bike.
Very interesting that Guth found the Hawk GT and the CB1100 as "keepers" as the two bikes are diametrically opposed from a design perspective. The Hawk was cutting-edge for its time, aluminum frame, single-sided swingarm, etcetera. Great machine. I would buy another but for the carburetors, and the SV is so close in handling with double the power. 20 pounds heavier, too, but not noticeable.
(02-16-2018, 04:22 PM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Guth, why on earth are you going to get rid of a Hawk GT? Those things were so seriously cool, and now there's nothing else like them.
I really loved those things.
Ulvetanna, yes, I suspect that the brake squealing will eventually go away. If it doesn't, I'll have the dealer remedy it under warranty. This is the first of my twenty-five or so bikes that has had any brake squeal. It doesn't really matter much, except that it's the lone fly in the ointment of what is otherwise a functionally perfect motorcycle to me. I just want that one imperfection gone, is all.
As for steel lines and HH pads, they aren't on my radar at the moment. I immediately slapped them onto the XSR, as the stock brakes felt a bit dull to me. Not so, with this '17 EX. Squeals aside, I have no complaints. Perhaps, as you say, they could be even better, but I certainly don't need them to be better.
I'm taking her on another two-day right up the coast next Tuesday and Wednesday, and I will again hit Skaggs Spring Rd, so we'll see. I'll pay particular attention to the brakes that entire ride.
Oh no, I wasn't suggesting the bike needed that setup. Only reason I did it is because for some reason I was experiencing some knuckle and joint pain in both hands for a few months, and wanted to reduce lever effort to the bare minimum. I had also installed the CB500 bars (thank you, Mr. Beck) and needed to shorten the clutch/brake lines. The hand condition cleared up completely, thankfully, and I had a bike with fantastic brakes. The CB's brakes stock are excellent. I wouldn't touch them without a really good reason. Pads, feel, the whole thing is very well designed.
(02-16-2018, 04:22 PM)VLJ_imp Wrote: Guth, why on earth are you going to get rid of a Hawk GT? Those things were so seriously cool, and now there's nothing else like them.
I really loved those things.
Ulvetanna, yes, I suspect that the brake squealing will eventually go away. If it doesn't, I'll have the dealer remedy it under warranty. This is the first of my twenty-five or so bikes that has had any brake squeal. It doesn't really matter much, except that it's the lone fly in the ointment of what is otherwise a functionally perfect motorcycle to me. I just want that one imperfection gone, is all.
As for steel lines and HH pads, they aren't on my radar at the moment. I immediately slapped them onto the XSR, as the stock brakes felt a bit dull to me. Not so, with this '17 EX. Squeals aside, I have no complaints. Perhaps, as you say, they could be even better, but I certainly don't need them to be better.
I'm taking her on another two-day right up the coast next Tuesday and Wednesday, and I will again hit Skaggs Spring Rd, so we'll see. I'll pay particular attention to the brakes that entire ride.
If that isn't a test for the bike's suspension and handling, I don't know what is. I did that road two-up on my 2013. Try to take some pictures or video, won't you?
I will state that with a passenger, low bars, and Ikon shocks, the bike did surprisingly well. I really don't recall anything about the ride that was offputting. Overall the 2013 can hold its own admirably even in "sport" mode with less than $1000 of mods (handlebars, brake/clutch lines, Ikon shocks).
I guess the K&N air filter and holes drilled in the tailpipe don't amount to much but they did give the bike a little more "growl".
