01-29-2018, 08:44 AM
Ulvetanna Wrote:Van Wrote:Guth, you can also guess that Lorenzo and Pedrosa brake and snap the throttle open a thousand times more forcefully than mickey does, or than anyone does on the street. Also, their bikes have the world's best safety nannies, allowing those guys to whack the throttle open and closed, snap off four downshifts, and slam on the brakes in a manner that would make most people highside their trusty streetbikes into oblivion.
At the level of aggression with which MotoGP guys ride, all such analogies and comparisons to street riding are moot. It's not even apples to asparagus.
Untrue. None of those guys snap the throttle on or off. If one watches the telemetry graph as any of those riders exit a turn, they will see the bar display smoothly increase for both throttle opening or brake pressure.
Nope. They absolutely snap the throttle open all the way to the stop, in certain circumstances. It's all relative, and some MotoGP riders are certainly smoother than others, but compared to mickey's throttle applications all MotoGP guys are wildly aggressive with every one of their inputs: braking, shifting their bodies, gear shifts, opening and closing the throttle.
They have to be. There is no way to race at 200 mph while easing away on corner exits, or gently braking at the end of a long straight. Yes, they have to be judicious with the throttle mid-corner, but the electronic safety nannies allow them the sort of freedom to get hard on the gas that guys like KR, Lawson, and Doohan who rode fire-breathing 500cc two-strokes could only dream about. In fact, the nannies have become so intrusive that guys like Hayden and Rossi longed for their removal, even from the four-strokes. Anyone can ride them now, and that's not how it was meant to be at the highest level of Grand Prix racing.
A perfect example of this was when Dani Pedrosa had his violent highside the moment Marc Marquez ran into him from behind, severing his traction control cable. No traction control, 260 rwhp, and a big handful of throttle?
"To the moon, Alice!"
At the level of aggression with which MotoGP guys ride, all such analogies and comparisons to street riding are moot. It's not even apples to asparagus.
Untrue. None of those guys snap the throttle on or off. If one watches the telemetry graph as any of those riders exit a turn, they will see the bar display smoothly increase for both throttle opening or brake pressure.
Nope. They absolutely snap the throttle open all the way to the stop, in certain circumstances. It's all relative, and some MotoGP riders are certainly smoother than others, but compared to mickey's throttle applications all MotoGP guys are wildly aggressive with every one of their inputs: braking, shifting their bodies, gear shifts, opening and closing the throttle.
They have to be. There is no way to race at 200 mph while easing away on corner exits, or gently braking at the end of a long straight. Yes, they have to be judicious with the throttle mid-corner, but the electronic safety nannies allow them the sort of freedom to get hard on the gas that guys like KR, Lawson, and Doohan who rode fire-breathing 500cc two-strokes could only dream about. In fact, the nannies have become so intrusive that guys like Hayden and Rossi longed for their removal, even from the four-strokes. Anyone can ride them now, and that's not how it was meant to be at the highest level of Grand Prix racing.
A perfect example of this was when Dani Pedrosa had his violent highside the moment Marc Marquez ran into him from behind, severing his traction control cable. No traction control, 260 rwhp, and a big handful of throttle?
"To the moon, Alice!"