08-19-2018, 03:51 PM
dsan, thanks for posting this. It was an interesting read making some interesting points. I guess it might register in the mind of an open-minded non-motorcycling car driver.
In the end, taking EmptySea's point about problems with the definition of 'fault', I agree with LongRanger's view that the rider bears most of the responsibility for his or her own safety—as does the driver of any other vehicle.
LongRanger, I agree with your point about loud pipes: the life-saving is a flimsy justification for people who just want to make a racket. For some, it's a 'look at me' statement; for others it's defiance; and for others (particularly those who ride in some groups) it's part of a strategy to intimidate.
In the end, taking EmptySea's point about problems with the definition of 'fault', I agree with LongRanger's view that the rider bears most of the responsibility for his or her own safety—as does the driver of any other vehicle.
LongRanger, I agree with your point about loud pipes: the life-saving is a flimsy justification for people who just want to make a racket. For some, it's a 'look at me' statement; for others it's defiance; and for others (particularly those who ride in some groups) it's part of a strategy to intimidate.