09-29-2020, 06:10 AM
(09-29-2020, 05:33 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Just a week ago, I rode by beside an HD store located some kms away from Toronto, ON...no bikes or any traffic outside, possible closed??Hopefully, that was on a Sunday or a Monday.........
(09-29-2020, 05:22 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote:(09-29-2020, 04:53 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote:(09-29-2020, 03:50 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I'm down in North Carolina riding right now and there is nothing down here but Harleys. Seems like thousands of them. I made the comment more than once in the last couple of days, that it's hard to believe that Harley Davidson is in financial trouble.
They may be everywhere, but if they've owned them for years, or bought them secondhand, then HD isn't making fresh money.
Same for us CB1100 owners who bought them used, or years ago. It's thanks, but what have you done for Honda lately?
They may be everywhere, but if they've owned them for years, or bought them secondhand, then HD isn't making fresh money.
Yea that is something we have discussed with Harley riders down here. The ones we talked to admitted they bought their bikes used because new ones are too expensive, they havent changed much, and there are plenty of low mileage used ones around at good prices. They all are wearing tons of Harley branded gear. THey said the Harley Shop here by the Dragon doesnt even carry bikes, just clothing.
They may be everywhere, but if they've owned them for years, or bought them secondhand, then HD isn't making fresh money.
Yea that is something we have discussed with Harley riders down here. The ones we talked to admitted they bought their bikes used because new ones are too expensive, they haven't changed much, and there are plenty of low mileage used ones around at good prices. They all are wearing tons of Harley branded gear. They said the Harley Shop here by the Dragon doesn't even carry bikes, just clothing.
The problem for H-D is the dealers can't sell new ones. Much of their customer base is aging out and selling their bikes, glutting the market. An owner can't buy a new bike if the dealer can't give them a good trade, because there are so many used ones.
For fun, I just checked some a couple local H-D dealers, and Bartel's H-D had 30 new and 63 used Harleys. Glendale H-D had 25 new and 25 used, LA H-D had 59 new, 66 used.
Not sure if it's a valid comparison, but Bert's Mega-Mall, largest multi-brand dealer (no H-D) had 605 new, and 44 used.