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The future of Harley-Davidson
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(10-08-2019, 02:11 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: So far it would appear (and is not surprising to CB Forum members) that HD would have to not just make a great machine, but be at or close to cost competitive and not add their usual heavy margin on the sticker price. HD has their work cut out.
(10-08-2019, 01:13 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: and therein lies the issue, they are literally banking on just that, 'But 50-100% more for a name?' And that will be their downfall.

They cant play the 'made in america' legacy card on zero, either. Zero was there (e bikes) way before them.

Zero's workaround is to simply say, "Made In California". Wink

Zero's workaround is to simply say, "Made In California". Wink
Yep....and...

The Zero SR/F is 90 HP, 140 TQ, costs 20k, 485 curb weight, 5 yr unlimited miles warranty, ~180 mile range

HD Livewire is 105 HP, 86 TQ, costs 30k, 549 curb weight, battery warranty is 5 yr unlimited miles, and ~146 mile range.

Dollar for dollar, its about the same package, although the Zero weighs less and has more TQ albeit with slightly less HP...and of course costs 10k less. If I was in the market for an electric bike, I wouldn't even hesitate to buy the Zero and honestly I wouldn't even ride the Livewire; it simply can't be $10k better.
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The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 09-20-2019, 09:16 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by VLJ_imp - 09-20-2019, 11:39 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by DAC - 09-24-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by DAC - 09-25-2019, 02:19 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-05-2019, 10:17 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-07-2019, 06:47 PM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 10-08-2019, 01:07 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by NovaCB1100_imp - 10-08-2019, 09:36 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-09-2019, 06:21 PM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-10-2019, 02:00 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-10-2019, 02:27 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-10-2019, 06:07 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 10-15-2019, 09:27 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 12-11-2019, 02:29 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Obleo - 12-11-2019, 08:12 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 12-11-2019, 08:28 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Obleo - 12-11-2019, 11:03 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Mtneers - 12-12-2019, 12:27 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Obleo - 12-13-2019, 07:12 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Capo_imp - 12-14-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 02-23-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 02-23-2021, 06:03 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 02-23-2021, 08:01 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 02-23-2021, 07:46 PM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 04-26-2021, 05:13 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 04-26-2021, 05:00 PM

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