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The future of Harley-Davidson
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(09-25-2019, 10:05 PM)m in sc_imp Wrote: maybe, but that was the golden opportunity for them to turn it around around '12 when he 'retired'. My guess is that since he's still around and carries power, not much was changed in the board room for the past 7 years regarding approach. Typical corporate actions (understandable) but it will be their demise. Too little for too much too late. case in point where they should have been ahead of this: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/zero-motorc...eP8w7hTECw

My friend Dan has one of the new zero's, its identical to the baby blue one in the article, and its flat out impressive. And was about half the money of the livewire msrp out the door when he bought 6? weeks ago. I think harley needs to get the pricing down to reality, people are asking 'what am i really getting for 'x' amount? ' thats mostly what i hear at bike nights, etc when this comes up for the conventional or electric HD models.

The 'culture' they sold had a lifespan, they should have seen that coming (with all the research they should have been doing on their market), and that culture is dying out.


Not to hijack the thread, but the Zero Dealer near me had a demo day and I rode the SR/F; 110hp, 140 TQ. No clutch or gears, just twist to go, reverse to slow. Extremely well balanced, handles like my Ducati and brakes are really good. Ran through all of the riding modes, ECO, Street and Sport, and the whole experience was very user friendly.

I've never rode an electric bike before, so it was quite odd to hear nothing except for the wind. The only noise it makes is when you're slowing down, you can hear the "WHIRR" of the electric motor. But when you twist the throttle, HOLD ON, because mother of all things holy, this thing takes off like a rocket. A quick flick and you can go from 40 mph to well over triple digits and then right back to 40 mph.

Can't say what the Livewire experience will be like, but it would have to be A LOT better than the Zero to justify the price difference. And I think it would be very difficult to top the SR/F especially when you can get it for circa 20k.


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The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 09-20-2019, 09:16 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by VLJ_imp - 09-20-2019, 11:39 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by DAC - 09-24-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by DAC - 09-25-2019, 02:19 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by NovaCB1100_imp - 10-02-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-05-2019, 10:17 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-07-2019, 06:47 PM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 10-08-2019, 01:07 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-09-2019, 06:21 PM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-10-2019, 02:00 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-10-2019, 02:27 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 10-10-2019, 06:07 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 10-15-2019, 09:27 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 12-11-2019, 02:29 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Obleo - 12-11-2019, 08:12 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 12-11-2019, 08:28 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Obleo - 12-11-2019, 11:03 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Mtneers - 12-12-2019, 12:27 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Obleo - 12-13-2019, 07:12 AM
The future of Harley-Davidson - by Capo_imp - 12-14-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 02-23-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 02-23-2021, 06:03 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Cormanus - 02-23-2021, 08:01 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 02-23-2021, 07:46 PM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by pdedse - 04-26-2021, 05:13 AM
RE: The future of Harley-Davidson - by Tev62 - 04-26-2021, 05:00 PM

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