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ABS Efficacy
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(09-07-2021, 05:32 PM)tommymck_imp Wrote:
(09-07-2021, 04:00 PM)tod.branko_imp Wrote:
(09-07-2021, 08:48 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: I found a link to this study pointing to the benefits of ABS for motorcycles in the ADVRider newsletter and thought it might be of interest, https://www.iihs.org/api/datastoredocume...raphy/2236

tod.branko, I know you’ll enjoy the statistical work.

Edit: Link should work now.
Another interesting thing I've noticed in this paper is that "statistically" non ABS Honda Monkey is tbe ultimate killer with 65.1/10,000, more than any of the sports bikes that also have a higher incidence

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
Another interesting thing I've noticed in this paper is that "statistically" non ABS Honda Monkey is tbe ultimate killer with 65.1/10,000, more than any of the sports bikes that also have a higher incidence

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed Actually, you can't quite say that. In general, this data can't be used to compare vehicle models. It can only compare the difference between ABS and non ABS versions of the same vehicle...and even here, there are some caveats.

The data is per vehicle year. If for example, a Monkey is more typically used as a daily commuter and a Shadow is used as a weekend bike to tool around the neighborhood, there may be significantly more vehicle hours per vehicle year on Monkeys than on Shadows (or not...we just don't know from the data.)


And even within a model, the data could have problems. In the case of the Monkdy for example, there are significantly more non-ABS versions sold. The folks who spend the extra money for ABS ($200USD) might be more safety conscious.
Another interesting thing I've noticed in this paper is that "statistically" non ABS Honda Monkey is tbe ultimate killer with 65.1/10,000, more than any of the sports bikes that also have a higher incidence

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed Actually, you can't quite say that. In general, this data can't be used to compare vehicle models. It can only compare the difference between ABS and non ABS versions of the same vehicle...and even here, there are some caveats.

The data is per vehicle year. If for example, a Monkey is more typically used as a daily commuter and a Shadow is used as a weekend bike to tool around the neighborhood, there may be significantly more vehicle hours per vehicle year on Monkeys than on Shadows (or not...we just don't know from the data.)


And even within a model, the data could have problems. In the case of the Monkdy for example, there are significantly more non-ABS versions sold. The folks who spend the extra money for ABS ($200USD) might be more safety conscious. My sarcastic comment about the Monkey aside;

I can definitely say that, that's the thing about statistics - data is incomplete, taken out of context, and one can cherry pick it as much they want. And I want to point out that one is statistically more likely to be involved in a fatal accident with a non-ABS monkey than with a GSXR-1000, thus from now on I'm recommending a Gixer as a better beginner option than a monkey

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed
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ABS Efficacy - by Cormanus - 09-07-2021, 08:48 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Lord Popgun - 09-07-2021, 09:02 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Gone in 60 - 09-07-2021, 09:36 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Rboe_imp - 09-07-2021, 10:43 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Lord Popgun - 09-07-2021, 11:37 AM
ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-07-2021, 12:20 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Cormanus - 09-07-2021, 12:26 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-07-2021, 12:40 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Cormanus - 09-07-2021, 12:47 PM
ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-07-2021, 01:38 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by alprider - 09-07-2021, 02:26 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by alprider - 09-07-2021, 03:31 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-07-2021, 04:00 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by alprider - 09-07-2021, 04:11 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Mixagon_imp - 09-07-2021, 04:36 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by tommymck_imp - 09-07-2021, 05:32 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-07-2021, 06:01 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Cormanus - 09-07-2021, 09:34 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by max - 09-08-2021, 03:46 AM
ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-08-2021, 05:47 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Houtman_imp - 09-08-2021, 09:26 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by PowerDubs_imp - 09-08-2021, 09:30 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Houtman_imp - 09-08-2021, 08:47 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by GoldOxide_imp - 09-09-2021, 02:52 AM
ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-09-2021, 03:07 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by max - 09-09-2021, 06:17 AM
ABS Efficacy - by PowerDubs_imp - 09-09-2021, 12:41 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by tod.branko_imp - 09-09-2021, 03:03 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Houtman_imp - 09-09-2021, 08:52 PM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by GoldOxide_imp - 09-10-2021, 03:31 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by j3gq_imp - 09-27-2021, 06:38 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Cormanus - 09-27-2023, 06:16 AM
RE: ABS Efficacy - by Tev62 - 09-27-2023, 08:39 PM

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