(02-07-2021, 01:50 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: tod..my problem with guys like Dave Moss et al is they are all recommending to set up a taut bike for racing/aggressive riding whereas a lot of people just want to set up their bike so it is comfortable and cushy while riding. Especially the guys in the "normal CB age group" lol. Just click on his website..do you see any pleasure riders in the pics? No. He is sitting on a race bike, the pics are all of guys riding aggressively, the upcoming events are all track related. You set up a bike like that for the pleasure ride on the street and it will be harsh and unforgiving. Great suggestions for set up for the ricky racers, not so much for the pleasure rider...and try as much as you want to argue the set up should be the same, no they shouldn't. At 70, I don't ride like I was 30 anymore, and my bike requires to be set up differently than it did back then. Of course this is just my opinion and I'm certainly no expert.
I fail to see where is the misunderstanding because I argue the same thing. With the example at hand I argue against it because I've done the same thing, and I'm sure I've mentioned it before here on the forum, but let me say it again just for the sake of it - I have had an issue with with a lot of wind blast at high speed and an instable front wheel, I thought I could solve it with a simple fix of increasing the preload, but the end result was rear end chatter and rear wheel bounce (when I say bounce, I mean the rear wheel would physically bounce off the ground on rough patches of the road and over speed bumps). This was the reason to finally raise the seat by 1 inch, change the bars for dirt bars with less raise, pushe them more to the front and drop the triple clamps by 8mm. Once the front end was sorted, the rear was returned to normal preload and everything went back to smooth. And all this because ride was set for ME.
Now if I can't offer and alternative to something I've tried and know why it was a less then an ideal solution then what's the point of having this discourse?
If the suspension is set up for comfort, changing it for the sake for modifying the riders triangle will disrupt it's compliance.
I pointed out Dave Moss not because of how he sets bikes up, but because he has a rationale. It's easy to understand the why and the what and the how, and apply it ones own situation.
'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed