Thinking of a new gadget...

[GoldOxide_imp]

GoldOxide: responses to your responses below:

GO: * Should we be also concerned at the other end of the spectrum when the oil gets too hot? I understand when it is cold, but I thought (maybe incorrectly) that the oil cooler is closed when oil is cold, somewhat like a water-cooling thermostat. I thought too hot oil was the reason for the oil radiator in the first place. Maybe just worry about the "hot" end of the oil temperature spectrum instead of the cold? Every vehicle starts with cold oil, but not every vehicle has a hot oil problem.

There is already an idiot-light that should come up when the oil is too hot. At least it is there on my '18. Should the gadget also give "hot" warnings? Doable, just didn't feel the need. But again, you might be right...

GO: * Oil cooler should be free-flowing at normal engine operating temperature and higher. Perhaps you are right regarding sensor cooling. If you shroud or house the sensor, remember to leave a tiny air gap between surface being measured and sensor. Also note, such similar modification will invalidate your ambient air temperature readings.

Tried shrouding with a single layer of aluminum tape, but is is still over-cooled. Ambient and oil temp sensors are two different units, at different locations - they don't interfere. Or is it not what you meant? Also, leaving a gap between the surface (oil line) and the sensor? What would that be good for?

GO: * Keep in mind that if there is opportunity to deploy The Gadget onto other bikes (people may ask!), you may want to consider keeping the default design as generic as possible. Possibly, the common element can be "inserted" into various custom housings as they arise? Or do both: Let owners craft their own housing around your "common element", but if they want a CB1100 solution, you already have one available.

Sounds good! Will run a few more rounds to see if there is anything I could change to make arrangement more "universal". Baz's comment led me to keep thinking about the possibility of a split-design, a brain with all the good stuff (possibly even a button! ) and a display, as small and sleek as possible. Will make a mockup...

GO: * As neat as the animation is, I would rather have the functionality over the animation. Such a decision would hopefully ease your firmware design constraints.

Yeah, I'll probably go that route. Maybe a _very_ short boot sequence, 1s max...

I wasn't even thinking of the idiot light. I thought the requirement was to display the oil temperature. So maybe just do what you were doing and make it available anytime.

GoldOxide: responses to your responses below:

GO: * Should we be also concerned at the other end of the spectrum when the oil gets too hot? I understand when it is cold, but I thought (maybe incorrectly) that the oil cooler is closed when oil is cold, somewhat like a water-cooling thermostat. I thought too hot oil was the reason for the oil radiator in the first place. Maybe just worry about the "hot" end of the oil temperature spectrum instead of the cold? Every vehicle starts with cold oil, but not every vehicle has a hot oil problem.

There is already an idiot-light that should come up when the oil is too hot. At least it is there on my '18. Should the gadget also give "hot" warnings? Doable, just didn't feel the need. But again, you might be right...

GO: * Oil cooler should be free-flowing at normal engine operating temperature and higher. Perhaps you are right regarding sensor cooling. If you shroud or house the sensor, remember to leave a tiny air gap between surface being measured and sensor. Also note, such similar modification will invalidate your ambient air temperature readings.

Tried shrouding with a single layer of aluminum tape, but is is still over-cooled. Ambient and oil temp sensors are two different units, at different locations - they don't interfere. Or is it not what you meant? Also, leaving a gap between the surface (oil line) and the sensor? What would that be good for?

GO: * Keep in mind that if there is opportunity to deploy The Gadget onto other bikes (people may ask!), you may want to consider keeping the default design as generic as possible. Possibly, the common element can be "inserted" into various custom housings as they arise? Or do both: Let owners craft their own housing around your "common element", but if they want a CB1100 solution, you already have one available.

Sounds good! Will run a few more rounds to see if there is anything I could change to make arrangement more "universal". Baz's comment led me to keep thinking about the possibility of a split-design, a brain with all the good stuff (possibly even a button! ) and a display, as small and sleek as possible. Will make a mockup...

GO: * As neat as the animation is, I would rather have the functionality over the animation. Such a decision would hopefully ease your firmware design constraints.

Yeah, I'll probably go that route. Maybe a _very_ short boot sequence, 1s max...

Didn't click you had a separate ambient sensor. Then my point is moot.

GoldOxide: responses to your responses below:

GO: * Should we be also concerned at the other end of the spectrum when the oil gets too hot? I understand when it is cold, but I thought (maybe incorrectly) that the oil cooler is closed when oil is cold, somewhat like a water-cooling thermostat. I thought too hot oil was the reason for the oil radiator in the first place. Maybe just worry about the "hot" end of the oil temperature spectrum instead of the cold? Every vehicle starts with cold oil, but not every vehicle has a hot oil problem.

There is already an idiot-light that should come up when the oil is too hot. At least it is there on my '18. Should the gadget also give "hot" warnings? Doable, just didn't feel the need. But again, you might be right...

GO: * Oil cooler should be free-flowing at normal engine operating temperature and higher. Perhaps you are right regarding sensor cooling. If you shroud or house the sensor, remember to leave a tiny air gap between surface being measured and sensor. Also note, such similar modification will invalidate your ambient air temperature readings.

Tried shrouding with a single layer of aluminum tape, but is is still over-cooled. Ambient and oil temp sensors are two different units, at different locations - they don't interfere. Or is it not what you meant? Also, leaving a gap between the surface (oil line) and the sensor? What would that be good for?

GO: * Keep in mind that if there is opportunity to deploy The Gadget onto other bikes (people may ask!), you may want to consider keeping the default design as generic as possible. Possibly, the common element can be "inserted" into various custom housings as they arise? Or do both: Let owners craft their own housing around your "common element", but if they want a CB1100 solution, you already have one available.

Sounds good! Will run a few more rounds to see if there is anything I could change to make arrangement more "universal". Baz's comment led me to keep thinking about the possibility of a split-design, a brain with all the good stuff (possibly even a button! ) and a display, as small and sleek as possible. Will make a mockup...

GO: * As neat as the animation is, I would rather have the functionality over the animation. Such a decision would hopefully ease your firmware design constraints.

Yeah, I'll probably go that route. Maybe a _very_ short boot sequence, 1s max...

Totally

GoldOxide: responses to your responses below:

GO: * Should we be also concerned at the other end of the spectrum when the oil gets too hot? I understand when it is cold, but I thought (maybe incorrectly) that the oil cooler is closed when oil is cold, somewhat like a water-cooling thermostat. I thought too hot oil was the reason for the oil radiator in the first place. Maybe just worry about the "hot" end of the oil temperature spectrum instead of the cold? Every vehicle starts with cold oil, but not every vehicle has a hot oil problem.

There is already an idiot-light that should come up when the oil is too hot. At least it is there on my '18. Should the gadget also give "hot" warnings? Doable, just didn't feel the need. But again, you might be right...

GO: * Oil cooler should be free-flowing at normal engine operating temperature and higher. Perhaps you are right regarding sensor cooling. If you shroud or house the sensor, remember to leave a tiny air gap between surface being measured and sensor. Also note, such similar modification will invalidate your ambient air temperature readings.

Tried shrouding with a single layer of aluminum tape, but is is still over-cooled. Ambient and oil temp sensors are two different units, at different locations - they don't interfere. Or is it not what you meant? Also, leaving a gap between the surface (oil line) and the sensor? What would that be good for?

GO: * Keep in mind that if there is opportunity to deploy The Gadget onto other bikes (people may ask!), you may want to consider keeping the default design as generic as possible. Possibly, the common element can be "inserted" into various custom housings as they arise? Or do both: Let owners craft their own housing around your "common element", but if they want a CB1100 solution, you already have one available.

Sounds good! Will run a few more rounds to see if there is anything I could change to make arrangement more "universal". Baz's comment led me to keep thinking about the possibility of a split-design, a brain with all the good stuff (possibly even a button! ) and a display, as small and sleek as possible. Will make a mockup...

GO: * As neat as the animation is, I would rather have the functionality over the animation. Such a decision would hopefully ease your firmware design constraints.

Yeah, I'll probably go that route. Maybe a _very_ short boot sequence, 1s max...