06-25-2021, 01:27 AM
(06-24-2021, 11:59 PM)Hovmod_imp Wrote:(06-24-2021, 11:35 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Hovmod, thanks for the descriptive ride reports, especially on the two H-D models. They do sound so far removed from our simple CB1100s, though that has an appeal too.
The CB1100 is so good.
Like I said, it just keeps getting better by comparing other bikes.
This is why I’m not trying any other bikes in the naked litre segment, even though those are often the bikes that appeal the most to me. I *have* that, and a Ducati Monster or a NineT Scrambler or a V7 Bobber or any variety of retro informed, strong, naked bike can’t bring anything that I’m missing on the Honda. So they have to be different from it. They have to bring something to the table that the CB doesn’t do. Like dirt roads or track days, or fairings and wind shielding. Or electric motors. Or just being Italian.
(06-24-2021, 11:58 PM)misterprofessionality_imp Wrote: Im not saying it's not fun. It's the price. Theres such a thing as a ceiling on value, and no motorcycle is worth that much. 30k for any motorcycle is just grotesque. Many will argue with me, but its a financial perspective more than anything. This is doubly true for an electric bike whose batteries will fail or need replacement within 5 to 10 years.
Couple that with the fact that the zero srf premium is better on range, better on speed, better on weight, better on brakes, better on charging, and way way better on price... you begin to see why I have no interest in a livewire. The value statement just isn't there. It's outperformed and outpaced in every single category.
I agree.
I also didn’t mean to put words in your mouth.
I haven’t found a dealer that will let me test a Zero either, and I’m not buying anything I havent tried.
I have noticed this too. That is the great trouble//great fortune of the zero brand. You can't try them out, but that may be a good thing because trying them out could lead to a very very irresponsible purchase

