10-11-2022, 04:35 AM
(10-11-2022, 03:46 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:(10-11-2022, 03:37 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote:(10-11-2022, 03:29 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:(10-11-2022, 02:54 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote:(10-11-2022, 02:13 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I am able to ride all the Honda DCTs I had as well as all my classic clutch-based motorcycles at slow speeds. The rider must ultimately understand their machine and control it.
In terms of "jerkiness", Honda is currently doing recalls with clutch-based motorcycles (several models) and model year 202x DCT-based models for an ECU firmware update to address this. This had everything to do with cable-free throttle management whether or not it was manual clutch control or DCT-based.
Electric motorcycles will be perfected to meet a variety of riding preferences. It is all motion control system engineering. The customer will just continuously feedback their requirements to improve the product.
Thank you and finally
Gonna wait patently and see if any long term improvement ...or it will need a dual clutch pack replacement..++ ?
Honda is not keen and very stubborn to admit malfunctions...just saying.
Thank you and finally
Gonna wait patently and see if any long term improvement ...or it will need a dual clutch pack replacement..++ ?
Honda is not keen and very stubborn to admit malfunctions...just saying.
[url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=3454]PB - not sure if you read it well, but Honda is having issues with late model ECU firmware - whether on manual or DCT bikes. It is about throttle management. Gearbox is not relevant. In fact, some manual gearbox owners are afraid of their cable-free throttle.
In terms of DCT durability, some owners in Germany are reporting over 400,000 kms usage without issue.
(10-11-2022, 03:17 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: When the throttle is let off on a DCT, as it slows to a walking pace, it will suddenly disengage the engine braking by disengaging the clutch. It's this deficiency that has to be compensated for. You have to use the brake, usually the rear brake, just as you're almost ready to put your foot down. A left-side brake lever would help in this case, if you could un-learn normal clutch response.
There is no "sudden" disengagement. You are thinking maybe CVT scooter behaviour. In addition, if you are not using the rear brake to modulate a smooth stop on any motorcycle, then be careful.
Finally, I have not experienced nor read about any experienced rider "unlearning" clutch management. If people are suggesting this, maybe they should re-evaluate their own riding abilities and the safety of others on public roads.
Thank you and finally
Gonna wait patently and see if any long term improvement ...or it will need a dual clutch pack replacement..++ ?
Honda is not keen and very stubborn to admit malfunctions...just saying.
[url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=3454]PB - not sure if you read it well, but Honda is having issues with late model ECU firmware - whether on manual or DCT bikes. It is about throttle management. Gearbox is not relevant. In fact, some manual gearbox owners are afraid of their cable-free throttle.
In terms of DCT durability, some owners in Germany are reporting over 400,000 kms usage without issue.
Will wait anyhow.
Wait for what [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=3454]PB? An electric motorcycle like the Zero SR/F?
Cost of entry seems prohibitive to most riders.
All else is time-testing technology that will eventually be legislated out.
Wait for what [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=3454]PB? An electric motorcycle like the Zero SR/F?
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...waiting for the next 2023 season as this one is soon ending for me.
Not interested in e-bikes, even if it were given to me for free.