An oil thread that (Maybe) is different.

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Did Ptero just give the formula for Hubris oil???

I always pre-fill my filter too.

Well that information is classified as "Commercial - FMEO". However let me say, and let's keep this just between you, me and the fence post Pops, that Hubris Omni Grade is, despite being a full synthetic, nutritional and low-GI. In keeping with recent customer demands it is now guaranteed gluten free. No need for the motorcycle equivalent of coprophilia when using Hubris Omni Grade (CB1100 Blend).

Cheers
And for information, all Honda, and other manufacturers, service manuals require the engine, and presumably the oil contained therein, to be warm on commencing an oil change. But what would those turkeys know; they make 'em, we break 'em .

Cheers

Well that information is classified as "Commercial - FMEO". However let me say, and let's keep this just between you, me and the fence post Pops, that Hubris Omni Grade is, despite being a full synthetic, nutritional and low-GI. In keeping with recent customer demands it is now guaranteed gluten free. No need for the motorcycle equivalent of coprophilia when using Hubris Omni Grade (CB1100 Blend).

Cheers
And for information, all Honda, and other manufacturers, service manuals require the engine, and presumably the oil contained therein, to be warm on commencing an oil change. But what would those turkeys know; they make 'em, we break 'em .

Cheers The oil was warm when I commenced my oil changes. I just let it settle for a while, like overnight. Sort of like letting a fine wine breathe. Then again, ambient temperature here in my garage is already warm. I order antipasto and espresso prior to changing my oil, too, to set the mood, of course.

I am pretty sure there is going to be more oil in the sump to be drained after letting it settle overnight than, say after a couple of hours. It doesn't retreat back into the engine when it gets cold.
Hey, we found a new Web debate. I searched on hot vs. cold drain and voila! Tons of argumentation about it.

So, since the engine is hot when we turn it off, the longer we leave it alone, the more oil can drain from the upper portions as well as the oil cooler. If we are not in a huge hurry, we just let it drain from the sump for a longer period of time until it just drips very slowly.

I know on my last change, I had to put about four quarts in total, and it was exactly on the upper fill level mark (properly measured, yes) when I started. I also filled the filter. I think the oil cooler drained at least partially by allowing it to sit overnight.

Some claim warm oil will carry more of the suspended particles you want to get rid of, but in truth that is the filter's job and there is always something on the bottom of the sump that can't be drained no matter when we drain the oil, red-hot or room temperature.