05-19-2019, 05:46 AM
(05-19-2019, 05:34 AM)pdedse_imp Wrote: Well, I went out to the garage and pinged all spokes on the '07 klr650 w/44k miles front and back...very musical sounding, although one spoke looked very slightly bent. Then the '17ex CB1100 w/5k miles...again, pure música, no dull sounding thuds.
Since I bought the klr in '08, I've read a bit on spoke maintenance, but still haven't done anything with them. By pulling on them, there doesn't appear to be any loose ones, so I leave it.
And..are...the...spokes...stainless?
(05-19-2019, 04:26 AM)alprider_imp Wrote: made any pics this afternoon
modell 2017:
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AC...AD0BA4E55E
modell 2014
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AI...AD0BA4E55E
better quality for zoom if you download it...
Yes, thanks Alprider for the pictures! I looked at them and saw several things of note.
Honda uses 4 different rear wheel spokes for early hubs - 2 insides of different length, and 2 "outside" of different lengths. Same on the 2017, but different length and material. (Triumph does the same on the Bonnies).
And as Max in NZ pointed out, on the original rear hub, acceleration pulls on the "outer" spoke, the one with the longer neck before the bend, which causes that spoke to flex as it tries to straighten out.
This seems like bad practice. The longer neck is needed to clear the other spoke as they cross by each other, so they don't force each other to bend and distort.
The holes drilled in the hubs for the inner and outer spokes are not not in the same diameter circle, so they clear each other without the outer spokes having the extra neck length. On the 2017 hub, drive side inner pulls, on the brake side, outer pulls (and that's normal for most spoked wheels). But now, both inner and outer have the same strength, no flexing, so no real difference.
The last thing of note is that on the original wheels (see the last picture of the front wheel), there are some spoke threads visible, which makes me wonder if they are only partially engaging the spoke nipple threads. The spoke nipple's internal threads start about 4-5 mm down from the top. That stepped section of the spokes should be hidden by the recess in the spoke nipples.
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