Tank Fun

[2017EX_imp]

I will be taking the tank off my 2017EX when the weather warms up to install the LED indicator for an OEM Honda alarm system on my bike. There is a separate thread about the alarm system here on the Forum. Originally I had thought to do without the LED, but changed my mind, and have that part on the way from Japan. Consequently this thread has been of huge interest to me, and obviously a big help.

Cormanus link in post #13 to a different thread post by another member, shows the 2013-2014 type connector. In doing the research, I discovered that Honda used this connector up until 2016 when all the Honda bikes I looked at parts diagrams for changed to the connector that is the subject of this thread. Up through 2015, whether on a CB1100 or other model, the parts diagrams listed the green clip, and rubber locking piece as available separate parts, and consequently the Shop manual I have ( 2013-2014 ) called for those parts to be replaced if the fuel line was ever disconnected.

In looking at the 2017 parts diagram https://www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/...-fuel-pump initially I could not figure out why those parts to be replaced were not on the diagram, and after reading this thread, viewing the videos, links, etc., not even the white plastic clip tommymck removed and pictured was listed. Then I saw part #5 Hose,Fuel Feed on the diagram, and it all became clear in combination with the info in this thread.

Part #5 for my 2017, runs from the tank to the fuel pump with what one of the videos in this thread describes as a high pressure fuel line quick disconnect, permanently attached to both ends. Since the parts diagram does not list the white plastic clip as a separate part, it is not intended to be removed from the quick disconnect, and so is not needed as a replacement part.. The white clip is a press to release lock, as shown in the videos in this thread. As tommymck found his connector still locks onto the fuel line without the white clip, but may be more difficult to release next time ( if needed ) without it.

Many thanks to tommymck and all the other contributors in this thread, otherwise I would have been scratching my head trying to figure out how to release that connector when the time comes, and I certainly did not know the connector design on my 2017 was different from the 2013-2014 either.

[tommymck]

I will be taking the tank off my 2017EX when the weather warms up to install the LED indicator for an OEM Honda alarm system on my bike. There is a separate thread about the alarm system here on the Forum. Originally I had thought to do without the LED, but changed my mind, and have that part on the way from Japan. Consequently this thread has been of huge interest to me, and obviously a big help.

Cormanus link in post #13 to a different thread post by another member, shows the 2013-2014 type connector. In doing the research, I discovered that Honda used this connector up until 2016 when all the Honda bikes I looked at parts diagrams for changed to the connector that is the subject of this thread. Up through 2015, whether on a CB1100 or other model, the parts diagrams listed the green clip, and rubber locking piece as available separate parts, and consequently the Shop manual I have ( 2013-2014 ) called for those parts to be replaced if the fuel line was ever disconnected.

In looking at the 2017 parts diagram https://www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/...-fuel-pump initially I could not figure out why those parts to be replaced were not on the diagram, and after reading this thread, viewing the videos, links, etc., not even the white plastic clip tommymck removed and pictured was listed. Then I saw part #5 Hose,Fuel Feed on the diagram, and it all became clear in combination with the info in this thread.

Part #5 for my 2017, runs from the tank to the fuel pump with what one of the videos in this thread describes as a high pressure fuel line quick disconnect, permanently attached to both ends. Since the parts diagram does not list the white plastic clip as a separate part, it is not intended to be removed from the quick disconnect, and so is not needed as a replacement part.. The white clip is a press to release lock, as shown in the videos in this thread. As tommymck found his connector still locks onto the fuel line without the white clip, but may be more difficult to release next time ( if needed ) without it.

Many thanks to tommymck and all the other contributors in this thread, otherwise I would have been scratching my head trying to figure out how to release that connector when the time comes, and I certainly did not know the connector design on my 2017 was different from the 2013-2014 either.

Glad this is of help! Let me know if you have any issues when you start to tackle the job.

I originally thought that I'd be swapping tanks based on my mood, but the stock tank has sat in a box since original replacement, and I doubt that I'll put it back on again. I really love the vibe of the K10 tank, and the extra capacity has been noticeable with my riding.

I think I've said it in another thread, but anybody considering the K10 swap should know that the stock seat doesn't fit well with the larger tank. Fortunately (except for my wallet) Samurider has a solution for that...

Stock Seat (notice the scrunch near the tank)



K10 seat

[Cormanus]

2017ex, I don't know if this helps or is even relevant, but, certainly on my 2011, you don't need to take the tank off to run a wire aft from the bars. Simply undoing the bolt at the back of the tank and lifting it a little will allow you to run a wire above the heat shield.

[2017EX_imp]

Thanks tommymck. I had asked Mr. T quite a while back if the K10 seat would fit a 2017EX. In his reply he said it would, and sent me a picture of the K10 seat mounted. In that picture I noted a distinct downhill slant of the seat toward the tank, as opposed to being more level, and thought it might result in the rider sliding toward the tank all the time. A small issue no doubt, but just not my preference considering what the seat cost is. Some of that look is hidden by the bags in the picture you have posted. As an alternative, a riding buddy of mine sent his stock seat to a well known seat specialist ( the specialists name escapes me at the moment ) and had it modified to fit his needs. The results were spectacular, looked factory made, and cost was significantly less than a new seat. My 1974 CB750 had a very slight "scrunch" as you put it, and over time vibration rubbing of the seat nose against the tank abraded the tank clear coat finish. Not being critical of of your results as your bike is gorgeous, just offering some small considerations. If interested in exploring the seat MOD specialist who might be able to shorten the nose of your stock seat to eliminate the scrunch, I will get his info from my buddy for you.

Cormanus, Thank you for your suggestion as well. I had considered trying to run the alarm LED indicator wire above the engine heat shield as you describe, and may do that, but also wanted to know how to remove the tank ( release the fuel line connector ) as well if I discovered that was necessary during the install. As pointed out in the OEM alarm system thread Honda probably sub contracted it out to Protec. This Protec set of install pictures, bottom picture shows where I want to mount the LED indicator on top of the frame between the tank and the triple tree: http://www.protec-products.co.jp/product...manual.pdf For anyone interested here is a link to the alarm system thread: http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....arm+system

Lastly, Mr. T can probably get the OEM alarm system parts, but they are stock items available at
https://japan.webike.net/ which is where I got mine. The part numbers are listed in the Original Alarm System thread. At Webike if you set up a free account, each purchase gets you points to use against the next purchase. My alarm module and siren, along with extension cable was on sale, so including shipping was about $68. When I decided to add the LED indicator, using points from the previous purchase, it only cost me about $10 shipped. While I prefer to deal with Mr. T, as he has proven to be extremely reliable, and a fine gentleman, once and a while Webike can be a reasonable supplement. Although related to this thread, my observations also veer off topic as well. I did want to share the info, but did not want to loose original context by jumping between threads to post it. Apologies for the veer, but hope the info is useful.

[tommymck]

Thanks tommymck. I had asked Mr. T quite a while back if the K10 seat would fit a 2017EX. In his reply he said it would, and sent me a picture of the K10 seat mounted. In that picture I noted a distinct downhill slant of the seat toward the tank, as opposed to being more level, and thought it might result in the rider sliding toward the tank all the time. A small issue no doubt, but just not my preference considering what the seat cost is. Some of that look is hidden by the bags in the picture you have posted. As an alternative, a riding buddy of mine sent his stock seat to a well known seat specialist ( the specialists name escapes me at the moment ) and had it modified to fit his needs. The results were spectacular, looked factory made, and cost was significantly less than a new seat. My 1974 CB750 had a very slight "scrunch" as you put it, and over time vibration rubbing of the seat nose against the tank abraded the tank clear coat finish. Not being critical of of your results as your bike is gorgeous, just offering some small considerations. If interested in exploring the seat MOD specialist who might be able to shorten the nose of your stock seat to eliminate the scrunch, I will get his info from my buddy for you.

Cormanus, Thank you for your suggestion as well. I had considered trying to run the alarm LED indicator wire above the engine heat shield as you describe, and may do that, but also wanted to know how to remove the tank ( release the fuel line connector ) as well if I discovered that was necessary during the install. As pointed out in the OEM alarm system thread Honda probably sub contracted it out to Protec. This Protec set of install pictures, bottom picture shows where I want to mount the LED indicator on top of the frame between the tank and the triple tree: http://www.protec-products.co.jp/product...manual.pdf For anyone interested here is a link to the alarm system thread: http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....arm+system

Lastly, Mr. T can probably get the OEM alarm system parts, but they are stock items available at
https://japan.webike.net/ which is where I got mine. The part numbers are listed in the Original Alarm System thread. At Webike if you set up a free account, each purchase gets you points to use against the next purchase. My alarm module and siren, along with extension cable was on sale, so including shipping was about $68. When I decided to add the LED indicator, using points from the previous purchase, it only cost me about $10 shipped. While I prefer to deal with Mr. T, as he has proven to be extremely reliable, and a fine gentleman, once and a while Webike can be a reasonable supplement. Although related to this thread, my observations also veer off topic as well. I did want to share the info, but did not want to loose original context by jumping between threads to post it. Apologies for the veer, but hope the info is useful.

Hi 2017EX,

Interesting. There were actually two different seats that Samurider offered. One was for the 2014, and when mounted on a 2017, it had an odd relationship with the rear wrap around bar. The one for the 2017 was more straight and level. For what it's worth, see below for a close up of the seat. I don't have any pics without the bags, but in real life, it doesn't slope forward. On the other hand, if I had a line on a local source that could have mod'd my original seat, I'm sure that'd have been a more cost effective option. I really dig this seat the way it is though, but I have several bikes, so you never know when I might want something mod'd. Feel free to forward the seat guy's info along.

[Frulk_imp]

Tommymck...that's a ridiculously good looking CB right there!

[2017EX_imp]

Thanks tommymck. I had asked Mr. T quite a while back if the K10 seat would fit a 2017EX. In his reply he said it would, and sent me a picture of the K10 seat mounted. In that picture I noted a distinct downhill slant of the seat toward the tank, as opposed to being more level, and thought it might result in the rider sliding toward the tank all the time. A small issue no doubt, but just not my preference considering what the seat cost is. Some of that look is hidden by the bags in the picture you have posted. As an alternative, a riding buddy of mine sent his stock seat to a well known seat specialist ( the specialists name escapes me at the moment ) and had it modified to fit his needs. The results were spectacular, looked factory made, and cost was significantly less than a new seat. My 1974 CB750 had a very slight "scrunch" as you put it, and over time vibration rubbing of the seat nose against the tank abraded the tank clear coat finish. Not being critical of of your results as your bike is gorgeous, just offering some small considerations. If interested in exploring the seat MOD specialist who might be able to shorten the nose of your stock seat to eliminate the scrunch, I will get his info from my buddy for you.

Cormanus, Thank you for your suggestion as well. I had considered trying to run the alarm LED indicator wire above the engine heat shield as you describe, and may do that, but also wanted to know how to remove the tank ( release the fuel line connector ) as well if I discovered that was necessary during the install. As pointed out in the OEM alarm system thread Honda probably sub contracted it out to Protec. This Protec set of install pictures, bottom picture shows where I want to mount the LED indicator on top of the frame between the tank and the triple tree: http://www.protec-products.co.jp/product...manual.pdf For anyone interested here is a link to the alarm system thread: http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....arm+system

Lastly, Mr. T can probably get the OEM alarm system parts, but they are stock items available at
https://japan.webike.net/ which is where I got mine. The part numbers are listed in the Original Alarm System thread. At Webike if you set up a free account, each purchase gets you points to use against the next purchase. My alarm module and siren, along with extension cable was on sale, so including shipping was about $68. When I decided to add the LED indicator, using points from the previous purchase, it only cost me about $10 shipped. While I prefer to deal with Mr. T, as he has proven to be extremely reliable, and a fine gentleman, once and a while Webike can be a reasonable supplement. Although related to this thread, my observations also veer off topic as well. I did want to share the info, but did not want to loose original context by jumping between threads to post it. Apologies for the veer, but hope the info is useful.

Hi 2017EX,

Interesting. There were actually two different seats that Samurider offered. One was for the 2014, and when mounted on a 2017, it had an odd relationship with the rear wrap around bar. The one for the 2017 was more straight and level. For what it's worth, see below for a close up of the seat. I don't have any pics without the bags, but in real life, it doesn't slope forward. On the other hand, if I had a line on a local source that could have mod'd my original seat, I'm sure that'd have been a more cost effective option. I really dig this seat the way it is though, but I have several bikes, so you never know when I might want something mod'd. Feel free to forward the seat guy's info along.

Hi 2017EX,

Interesting. There were actually two different seats that Samurider offered. One was for the 2014, and when mounted on a 2017, it had an odd relationship with the rear wrap around bar. The one for the 2017 was more straight and level. For what it's worth, see below for a close up of the seat. I don't have any pics without the bags, but in real life, it doesn't slope forward. On the other hand, if I had a line on a local source that could have mod'd my original seat, I'm sure that'd have been a more cost effective option. I really dig this seat the way it is though, but I have several bikes, so you never know when I might want something mod'd. Feel free to forward the seat guy's info along.


tommymck, AHH, that explains it. Back when I inquired about the K10 seat Mr. T sent me a picture of the 2014 seat on a 2017, which did show the downhill slope, and the odd relationship to the rear wrap around bar you observed. I havent been on Samurider in a while and did not know they had come out with a K10 seat specific for the 2017...my bad. Glad it is as it should be and it looks great with the tank and side covers! I will reach out to my buddy and get the info on the seat specialist for you. Will PM his info to you when I get it. Great looking bike!

[GoldOxide_imp]

Very classic.

The wonderful images just reminded me this, "Does anyone still use the saddle strap?" My passengers have never used them, and I don't think I would if I were a passenger.

Just curious what other members thought.

[Desert viper_imp]

My wife prefers a backrest

[GoldOxide_imp]

+1 DV.