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Brake Pads... Simplified
#11
I use oem pads and I replaced mine at 19,102....36,909 and 53,020 and they are due again probably in another 1500 miles, I'm at 74,500 miles on the bike. I replaced them as sets.

The front pads on my NC went 23,405 and the tech advised the rears were still good, but are getting replaced on the 26th. They currently have 42,400 on them which I find astonishing. I'll replace both front and rear sets at that time.
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#12
Good to know my brake pad wear is normal for this bike.

Thanks for the info about Brembo and Caltric too!
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#13
(04-14-2024, 04:45 AM)Yata-Garasu_imp Wrote: Stock Part Numbers...

Front brake pads

06455-MGC-016 (New Part Number)
06455-MGC-006 (Old Part Number)

Rear brake pads

43105-MW0-425 (New Part Number)
Or 43105-MW0-405 (Old Part Number)

EBC part numbers...

Front
EBC Brakes Double-H Sintered Metal Brake Pads - FA296HH

Rear
EBC Brakes FA174V Semi Sintered Disc Brake Pad

There's also a PDF about pad compatibility published by EBC...

Ebc Catalog showing compatibility part numbers for different manufacturers.

https://www.ebc-brakes.de/downloads/EBC_...torrad.pdf

I think I should have installed the FA174HH on the rear instead of the V spec semi-sintered. I had them installed yesterday, and the stopping power of the semi-sintered pads is so weak it's almost as if they're defective...

I know they're not defective, because if I stomp on the rear brake pedal they do slow down the bike, but they're significantly weaker than the OEM pads were, and it's almost a joke compared to the pair of HH fully sintered pads up front.

I'm going to give them a couple hundred miles to seat and/or wear in, and if the performance doesn't significantly improve, Ill be replacing them with a set of FA174HH.
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#14
Many have complained about the inadequacy of the rear brake.
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#15
I've tried many different brake pads on my bike. I found that the best ones for the rear are Honda OEM.

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#16
(04-24-2024, 12:24 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: I had no complaints about the stock pads, except they are (literally) double the price of the ebc HH pads and IMHO, are in no way superior having run both. I'm not cheap by any means, but that's ridiculous.

Exactly. If Honda wasn't so greedy about their OEM parts, I wouldn't be looking at other manufacturers. Back in the 60's and 70's, and even during the 80's, Honda parts were affordable.

The EBC HH pads I put on the front have superior stopping power compared to the OEM pads they replaced. And the OEM front pads still had some life in them. I replaced the front pads with the rear because I wanted to do them all together.
(04-23-2024, 10:29 PM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Many have complained about the inadequacy of the rear brake.

Mine was okay with the stock pads. I'm not sure if the FA174V semi-sintered pads are to blame, if it was a poor installation, or if I just need to give them a little time to seat.

I will call the Honda shop that did the work and let them know I might be swapping out the rear pads again for fully sintered HH spec.
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#17
The. EBC FA174V Semi-sintered pads are fine. They just needed some break in time.

I rode about 40 miles yesterday, taking care to get the rear pads hot, and then let them cool down multiple times.

They are comparable to the stock pads, but only cost $35, instead of the $87 that Honda wants. Supposedly they will last longer too.

Here's a brief description of "Bedding Brakes" for anyone interested...

Quote:HOW TO BED BRAKES
1. PICK YOUR SPOT
Find an open stretch of road that will allow you to safely stop your vehicle multiple times.

2. SPEED UP, THEN SLOW DOWN
Accelerate to 35 MPH and apply moderate brake pressure to reduce your speed to under 5 MPH.

3. REPEAT AS NECESSARY
Repeat this process 2-3 times, accelerating back to 35 MPH and moderately braking.

4. TEST AGAIN AT 55 MPH
Next, increase speed to 50 MPH and strongly brake down to 5 MPH. You don’t want to brake strong enough to activate your ABS or lock up the tires. You should be able to come down to 5 MPH within a few seconds.

5. REPEAT AS NECESSARY
Repeat this process 4-5 times, then drive an additional 1-2 miles while very lightly braking to cool down the brakes.

6. PRO TIP:
It’s important to avoid coming to a complete stop during the hard-braking stage as it’s possible to melt brake pads against hot rotors. Of course, should a deer, pedestrian, or Sasquatch run onto the road, feel free to mash the brake pedal. Safety first!
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#18
It's time to replace the brake pads on my 2014 (no ABS) Honda.

I am a bit confused by the EBC catalog. The official website says that the FA296HH pads will fit front left. Does that mean I need a different model # for the right rotor? or will FA296HH fit both rotors?

I apologize if this is a dumb question.
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#19
I think it's time more new pads at 25k miles. If I go with the EBC, what's the difference between the FA174V (rear) that Yata-Garasu lists below and the FA174HH reference later in this thread? Why not the HH for both front and rear?

(04-14-2024, 04:45 AM)Yata-Garasu_imp Wrote: Stock Part Numbers...

Front brake pads

06455-MGC-016 (New Part Number)
06455-MGC-006 (Old Part Number)

Rear brake pads

43105-MW0-425 (New Part Number)
Or 43105-MW0-405 (Old Part Number)

EBC part numbers...

Front
EBC Brakes Double-H Sintered Metal Brake Pads - FA296HH

Rear
EBC Brakes FA174V Semi Sintered Disc Brake Pad

There's also a PDF about pad compatibility published by EBC...

Ebc Catalog showing compatibility part numbers for different manufacturers.

https://www.ebc-brakes.de/downloads/EBC_...torrad.pdf
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#20
(10-27-2024, 02:08 PM)pdedse_imp Wrote: I think it's time more new pads at 25k miles. If I go with the EBC, what's the difference between the FA174V (rear) that Yata-Garasu lists below and the FA174HH reference later in this thread? Why not the HH for both front and rear?

(04-14-2024, 04:45 AM)Yata-Garasu_imp Wrote: Stock Part Numbers...

Front brake pads

06455-MGC-016 (New Part Number)
06455-MGC-006 (Old Part Number)

Rear brake pads

43105-MW0-425 (New Part Number)
Or 43105-MW0-405 (Old Part Number)

EBC part numbers...

Front
EBC Brakes Double-H Sintered Metal Brake Pads - FA296HH

Rear
EBC Brakes FA174V Semi Sintered Disc Brake Pad

There's also a PDF about pad compatibility published by EBC...

Ebc Catalog showing compatibility part numbers for different manufacturers.

https://www.ebc-brakes.de/downloads/EBC_...torrad.pdf


Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier. I don't check in that often, and the forum software doesn't seem to remind me when people have replied to my old posts.

I'm sure you've already figured this out, but for anyone "passing by", the V designation is for EBC's semi-sintered pads. The HH designation is for the fully sintered pads.

The reason I chose the semi-sintered pads for the rear is due to some stuff I read about the fully sintered pads potentially chewing through the brake rotors. This was a phenomenon discovered by Goldwing riders, and the Goldwing is a much heavier bike than the CB1100. Since rotors for the CB1100 are expensive with not many options other than OEM, I went with the less aggressive pad for the single rotor in the back

The semi-sintered pads did take a while to "bed" properly and provide a decent amount of stopping power, but nearly a year later, I'm completely satisfied with the semi-sintered pads on the back, and I haven't noticed any abnormal wear on the rotors, front or back.

With the lower weight of the CB1100 compared to the Goldwing, you could probably use fully sintered pads both front and rear with no issues. I'm pretty sure that several forum members here are using fully sintered pads both front and back with no issues reported.
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