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Speeding tickets
#11
(05-21-2023, 07:55 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: I mean, its going to happen to some of us. I speed most of the time, and if i get really caught, i pay my dues. period. Not for anyone else to tell me to or not to unless you're behind me flashing a blue light in a squad car.

that being said, 100% you need to know HOW to talk to a cop. I have been pulled over way, way more than i have gotten tickets. Some legit, most really not, especially on the old 2 strokes, cops think I'm on a dirt bike from the sound more often than not.

regardless of what I make per hour or how much I value my time isn't the point, at all. IF I get caught, I get caught. IF i can talk my way out of it, so be it. IF I have to pay, I pay. Thats MY choice, and that's it. That's the 'cost of doing business' for me. for all the dumb stuff I've done, and do (speeding), I look at it like this: at least they didn't pull me over the other 50 time is was going faster than THIS time. But, if i can 'game the system' as i described above, I'll do that as well.
This is so true. I am stoped for speeding way more than I ever get ticketed. My history as a motorcycle safety trainer is in my DMV file.
Got stopped going 90mph once the officer thanked me for my service and told me to slow down.
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#12
I wasn't telling anyone how fast to ride, or not ride. That's up to each individual. All I was saying is, there is a way to not have to learn to talk your way out of a confrontation with an LEO or out of a speeding ticket. I imagine everyone knows what that is.
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#13
(05-21-2023, 08:36 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: my father was 82 when he got a speeding ticket 2 yrs ago, 1st one since like 1964, and he was going like 7 over. My uncle, who was a sgt in the NY PD used the badge numerous times until once in TN it didn't work.

it happens.

best way for it not to happen: don't get caught. Not speeding, ever, isn't an option. I was doing 80- mph today on I77 N heading to Charlotte just to keep up w traffic in my suv in the middle lane.


Absolutely.

Fastest I've ever driven a car- verified- was 154mph on the GPS.

One Sunday morning after meeting up with a bunch of guys for breakfast- we hit the highway to drive to the drag strip.

Since several had never been there before- I took lead...and was playing around a bit.

At some point we passed a cop in the center median- he pulled out behind us...with his lights on proceeded to drive up to each car and point them over to the shoulder as he kept moving up the line. Eventually he got to me- and I pulled over- he did his thing while his backup picked up the other guys.

I remember the ticket- 87 in a 65.

We continued on to the drag strip and I remember not thinking anything of it...while a couple other guys were clearly upset. I told them the same as you- at least they didn't catch us a couple miles before...at a much higher speed.

The amount of stupidity I've done in a car or on a bike... I deserved a little trouble every once in a while when I was younger...


(05-21-2023, 08:36 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: my father was 82 when he got a speeding ticket 2 yrs ago, 1st one since like 1964, and he was going like 7 over. My uncle, who was a sgt in the NY PD used the badge numerous times until once in TN it didn't work.

it happens.

best way for it not to happen: don't get caught. Not speeding, ever, isn't an option. I was doing 80- mph today on I77 N heading to Charlotte just to keep up w traffic in my suv in the middle lane.


Well- it IS an option- but it would just pissed off everyone around you...and is actually more dangerous as others will drive more aggressively instead of just cruising.

And yea- I literally commute every single day at 80-85 here in NJ. These days you can go right past a cop in the median or even driving on the road at 80- no issue as long as you maintain a safe distance, use signals, lights / wipers if needed.
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#14
(05-21-2023, 06:07 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(05-21-2023, 04:31 AM)Charlie Bravo_imp Wrote: I learned how to talk to police a long time ago; if you're pulled over for speeding, admit that you were speeding, and ask for consideration. Don't lie, it makes them mad. Be respectful. And one more thing, being a veteran has worked for me many times. All my bikes and vehicles have had something on the rear to show I'm a veteran. I've been pulled over several times in the years since I ETS'ed from the army, and only got one ticket, and that was the one time I had no indicator of being a veteran on my bike. Another thing of note; back in the day, before I got back into riding, I had a long freeway commute full of crazy drivers and tailgators. I decided to get back into riding and acquired a nice black H-D Sportster. In the dealer one day, I spotted a small H-D sticker, bought it and put it in my back window. Crazy drivers tailgating me pretty much ceased.
Coincidence? I don't know for sure...

Interesting.

Might be a useful test affixing an HD patch on the rear of the CB1100.

Interesting.

Might be a useful test affixing an HD patch on the rear of the CB1100. Another way is to donate to the law enforcement bereavement fund. In California back in 2009 an $1100.00 donation would get you a cool bumper sticker, plus you were helping the families. I had California, Nevada, Utah and Grand Junction, Co.,as a Is territory. 56000 miles a year. As far as.not speeding, if you can drive HY 50 from Nevada to Grand Junction Co. without speeding in my opinion your certifiably...
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#15
My KLR650 was my main ride for nearly 15 years...never had to talk my way out of anything...never got a ticket... never got pulled over. At some point I realized the speedo was off by about 7-8 mph at hiway speeds. Built-in safety guard.

I'll take that back...I got pulled over once in MX for riding in a "non-motorcycle" lane. Kind officer explained that the inner lane was for motorcylces and cars, but outer lane was for cars only on a two way street. The two cops threatened my buddy and me for over 30 minutes with court appearances, $200 fines, or we could pay them $120 right then and there...they even did the good-cop / bad-cop routine. We practically begged them to give us the ticket, that we would be delighted to appear in court as we had all the time in the world, loved the city, wouldn't mind seeing more of it. It was kinda fun. Then they suddenly said we were free to go. We asked if they could recommend a hotel and they did!
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#16
(05-21-2023, 07:24 AM)Nachodaddy_imp Wrote: It helps to be sure to get pulled over in the rain in front of a donut shop. That happened to me once in Tucson. Shortest traffic stop on record. And yes, he went straight to the donut shop after giving me a very short lecture and no ticket.
I am always respectful and do make sure they see my Air Force retired ID card.
It couldn't hurt.

Glad you didn't try to bribe him into an apple cinnamon donut and some Joe.
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#17
Honestly, you have been pulled over in the rain ? My tickets have ALL come about on sunny days, Mo-Fr, between 8am and 5pm. My take? take it easy on such golden days, go faster when the cops like to be home and when the chief might have to pay for overtime.
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#18
Timely topic for me, and if anyone from North Carolina can weigh in on my situation to let me know if I've just been scammed or not, I'd appreciate it.

I've not had the best luck with my business travel this year. Consistent flight delays leading to lots of late night arrivals on job sites.
Most recently, delays caused me to land in Charlotte, NC very late at night, after which I got into a rental car and had a drive of over two hours to Rockingham, along remote, two-lane roads.

I was probably half-asleep, driving a very quiet car, was pulled over for speeding some time around 1 a.m. in the middle of nowhere. The officer was very polite, and I was with him. I was too tired to think anything good, just said I had had a very long day, and just wanted to get to my hotel and go to sleep. Don't know how fast I was going, but he said "I don't to make this hard for you, and since you're from out of state, I'm going to write this up at a speed that won't make you have to come back to this county to see the judge. You can just pay online." Yippy.

While I was on the jobsite, I did enough online research to learn that California and North Carolina share traffic violation data, so the ticket would eventually get on my CA driving record. While many places, like California, allow online traffic school to eliminate a points ticket from your record, the county where I received the ticket does not. I called the court and checked. I haven't had a ticket in many years, but I was most concerned about my insurance going up.

When I got home from my trip, there were six letters from local NC lawyers all saying "Don't pay that ticket until you call us!" Ok, I'll bite. I called all six of them, and all of them claimed that they could go to court on my behalf, and based on a clean record and the speed I was ticketed for, my offense would be knocked down to a non-moving violation for "improper equipment", what we would call a "fix-it" ticket, that would not incur points.

All of the lawyers would charge a small fee, and with the court costs, it would be slightly more than the price of the ticket itself. One lawyer told me that they could save me a few bucks if I pulled my own CA driving record and send it to them, so I went with them, paid the two bucks to get my own record, and sent it. In any case, the same speeding ticket would be hundreds more in CA.

So I guess I'm waiting now, as my "court date" isn't until June. We'll see.
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(05-22-2023, 02:45 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Timely topic for me, and if anyone from North Carolina can weigh in on my situation to let me know if I've just been scammed or not, I'd appreciate it.

I've not had the best luck with my business travel this year. Consistent flight delays leading to lots of late night arrivals on job sites.
Most recently, delays caused me to land in Charlotte, NC very late at night, after which I got into a rental car and had a drive of over two hours to Rockingham, along remote, two-lane roads.

I was probably half-asleep, driving a very quiet car, was pulled over for speeding some time around 1 a.m. in the middle of nowhere. The officer was very polite, and I was with him. I was too tired to think anything good, just said I had had a very long day, and just wanted to get to my hotel and go to sleep. Don't know how fast I was going, but he said "I don't to make this hard for you, and since you're from out of state, I'm going to write this up at a speed that won't make you have to come back to this county to see the judge. You can just pay online." Yippy.

While I was on the jobsite, I did enough online research to learn that California and North Carolina share traffic violation data, so the ticket would eventually get on my CA driving record. While many places, like California, allow online traffic school to eliminate a points ticket from your record, the county where I received the ticket does not. I called the court and checked. I haven't had a ticket in many years, but I was most concerned about my insurance going up.

When I got home from my trip, there were six letters from local NC lawyers all saying "Don't pay that ticket until you call us!" Ok, I'll bite. I called all six of them, and all of them claimed that they could go to court on my behalf, and based on a clean record and the speed I was ticketed for, my offense would be knocked down to a non-moving violation for "improper equipment", what we would call a "fix-it" ticket, that would not incur points.

All of the lawyers would charge a small fee, and with the court costs, it would be slightly more than the price of the ticket itself. One lawyer told me that they could save me a few bucks if I pulled my own CA driving record and send it to them, so I went with them, paid the two bucks to get my own record, and sent it. In any case, the same speeding ticket would be hundreds more in CA.

So I guess I'm waiting now, as my "court date" isn't until June. We'll see.
I used one of these when I lived in Las Vegas. I was nervous about it, but they did exactly what you described and all it cost me was the Lawyer's fee, which was about $150. They knocked mine down to a parking violation, though. I suspect it is less work for the court, too.
We will hope it works out as well for you.
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#20
Thanks, Nacho. The lawyer I went with said "If anyone else you're talking to says it's a guarantee, it's not. But, the court issues guidelines, and for your record and your speed, this is the guideline. The only thing that might happen is if the judge is having a bad day, and sees you as some California City-Slicker, he might want to tack on an extra twenty bucks to the fine to teach you a lesson. But if he's having a good day, you'll just hear from us when the case is complete."
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