CB1100 vs. Griso vs. NineT ...

[jitaylor_imp]

Lately it has been hard to get the r1200 RS out of my head, rather than the r9t. The RS seems like the perfect roadster. There is the price problem, but other than that, it has been calling out to me.

[LongRanger_imp]

Ride one before you decide. You might dislike the engine and gearbox, especially compared to the Honda.

[LongRanger_imp]

BTW, if you decide to buy a new RNineT or R1200RS, try to wait until the end of the year. BMW typically offers compelling financing terms, factory discounts, and price promotions to clear out current model overstock. When I bought my 2103 F800GT in December 2013, it was $2000 off and came with free saddlebags ($950 MSRP). It had to be ordered from the BMWNA warehouse -- my dealer didn't have any in inventory.

[tinboatcapt_imp]

I nearly pulled the trigger on a new leftover Guzzi 750 Brevia. From some of the subsequent chatter it is perhaps a stroke of luck that I didn't.

On that note. I was thinking of forums. This one, the ST Owners, currently; and the BMWMOA in the past. It seems the two Honda forum topics are heavily weighted toward riding, modifying, and fantasizing about other bikes. The BMW MOA on the other hand was a treasure trove of how to fix your BMW.

That said, I did enjoy riding my K100's. Combined mileage on the two is near 100K miles. On one bike I bought used (heavily), I gave it some TLC and rode it 70K. The second one I purchased as a total wreck with 20K miles and rebuilt it then rode it 30K miles. The BMW's were harder to ride properly, If ridden correctly they danced. They were less forgiving than the Honda's I have had. A recent test ride on a R1200RS left me smiling, but not enough to get me to trade either my CB or ST. I was put off by all the techno whiz bang. Simplicity is its own elegance.
Jim

[GoldOxide_imp]

Heh, heh, keen observation regarding the various forums and the CB1100 forum.

On that note, the CB purrs nicely at -25C plus the windchill stroking through its cooling fins at 80 to 90 km/h all with standard recommended oil.

[jitaylor_imp]

Ride one before you decide. You might dislike the engine and gearbox, especially compared to the Honda.

Interesting. I will see if I can get the local dealer to let me. LRanger, Have you already had a chance to do a ride comparison? That would be interesting to hear about.

[LongRanger_imp]

I've ridden neither a Griso nor a RNineT, but I have ridden a Moto Guzzi 1200 Sport 2V (predecessor engine to the Griso's 4V) and plenty of oilhead BMW's. Both had more torque than the CB, both handled better, and both were very satisfying in real-world conditions. The examples I rode had nice gearboxes and well-behaved drivetrains. "Lusty" is the adjective I'd use to describe the riding experience. My issue with Moto Guzzi is the lack of U.S. dealerships and inadequate service & support from the importer, Piaggio. My issue with BMW mostly reflects the frustrations I'm having with my current R1200RT. The CB is a more polished, more refined bike than either of these two, at least in my opinion, though I don't find it offers the same level of sporting performance. It all depends on what you're after.

[ohiorider_imp]

I've ridden neither a Griso nor a RNineT, but I have ridden a Moto Guzzi 1200 Sport 2V (predecessor engine to the Griso's 4V) and plenty of oilhead BMW's. Both had more torque than the CB, both handled better, and both were very satisfying in real-world conditions. The examples I rode had nice gearboxes and well-behaved drivetrains. "Lusty" is the adjective I'd use to describe the riding experience. My issue with Moto Guzzi is the lack of U.S. dealerships and inadequate service & support from the importer, Piaggio. My issue with BMW mostly reflects the frustrations I'm having with my current R1200RT. The CB is a more polished, more refined bike than either of these two, at least in my opinion, though I don't find it offers the same level of sporting performance. It all depends on what you're after.

I'd say lusty spells it out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6_9hy8DCac
Spring of 2010, my 1200 Sport. That is the pipe that came from the factory. How'd it pass db test?

[GoldOxide_imp]

Hard to believe Piaggio letting down their U.S. base since they rolled back Canadian support in 2010 to the U.S. Canadians had to work with Piaggio U.S.A. Jeez, sounds like Piaggio really dropped the ball.

[max]

As far as i have read piaggio group is 45% owned by zongshen and have opened a research facility in chongqing probably for small engines but possibly expanding to bigger ones in the future, Italian bikes are beautiful but the manufacturers frequently have financial issues as i found out when i was looking at an mv brutale 750 but quickly decided against it because of the background and reviews in several forums.

As nice as they are you have to have '' lucky dice " to own one, someone close to me got a new griso and not long in the game needed the valve train upgraded because of the lack of hardness etc. that was a $2300,- repair, you got's to do your homework.................