Flashed CB1100 Review

[the Ferret]

At last some conclusion to this whole debacle.

I have to say, if all this expense and drama nets us only around 10 mph, bearing in mind that was on the centre stand, no drag, now wind resistance, no tyre friction or heavy rider to carry.... Is this all placebo and did Honda just get it perfect to begin with?

I can count on no hands the number of times that extra 10mph OVER 112 mph will be essential, or even useful.

Just sayin'

Why I respond to this im not sure, it was I demonstration, could have buried the speedo since bike is limited to 186

Why I respond to this im not sure, it was I demonstration, could have buried the speedo since bike is limited to 186

It would have buried my 2014 Dlx speedo

[Tortuga_imp]

I'm leaving this thread alone, since arguing with the tuning fraternity is tantamount to shagging ones daughter it seems.

Bye,

[avsbezzy_imp]

That 130 mph on the center stand made me laugh....I owe you a cold one for that.

[Cormanus]

Thanks CIP. Glad to hear the result is positive. And that this can be done successfully as the experts predicted.

[thessler3_imp]

CIP57 you have done many of us a great big favor by getting your ECU reflashed. Can you do us a second favor and repost the exact details of where you had it done and whether the ECM had to be drilled and any other pertinent details?

[CIP57_imp]

CIP57 you have done many of us a great big favor by getting your ECU reflashed. Can you do us a second favor and repost the exact details of where you had it done and whether the ECM had to be drilled and any other pertinent details?

http://guhlmotors.com/
The contact is Don. The unit does not have to be opened or drilled.

How is the exhaust sound, any gurgling or backfiring when you let up? ( I forget if your exhaust is stock or nor.... )
And the big question "Was it worth it, would you do it again, would you recommend to a friend?"

Hiker,

My bike is stock, the back pressure has not changed so no there is no ill effects regarding exhaust issues, in fact with less engine braking it might be minimized.

Was it worth it, indeed, let forget about the limiter, more low end torque, snappy throttle response with less throttle input and all for the cost of a set of side covers. Yes, i would recommend it to anyone regardless of how the ride. Who would not want a bike that responds better.

[xpacpal1x_imp]

Would the reflash improve throttle response and other engine performance attributes of a CB1100 that already has 1) Staintue exhaust, 2) PowerCommander V, and 3) professional dyno tuning?

[Red Mist_imp]

Would the reflash improve throttle response and other engine performance attributes of a CB1100 that already has 1) Staintue exhaust, 2) PowerCommander V, and 3) professional dyno tuning?

Yes, just let Don know exactly what you've done to the bike. If you have PCV, he can do the reflash for the stock ECU and fueling adjustments are then made using the PCV, however, a dyno is needed to get those right.

The reflash will remove factory detuning (restrictions) in the first four gears, change the way the engine responds (much more lively whilst increasing power everywhere), and of course remove the top speed limitation. Engine braking can also be reduced, you can ask about that as it's adjustable.

[hedstrom_imp]

CIP57 Wrote:
"Yes, i would recommend it to anyone regardless of how the ride. Who would not want a bike that responds better."


Tortuga

Installed the ECU put the key in, no FI codes (phew) started her up and idle was perfect still no FI codes

Warmed the bike up and checked the limiter ( see pic ) limiter is gone, there will be a time and place to check it, today was not the day.

Realized gains:
Stock 0-60 4.2 0-100 8.9
Flashed 0-60 3.7 0-100 8.3
I figured on these gains with the timing retard gone.

Whats impressive is the throttle response at 1/4 and 1/2 opening in lower gears. You just have to touch the throttle and the bike responds.

I assume i will be getting better fuel mileage and will report after a few tanks at normal riding conditions.

The front wheel gets real loose in first gear but not off the ground, same as my GS1100 but does not make the crazy power on top. HP gains i think are minimal, if i had to guess i would say about 5hp on top but more in the lower gear mid-range.

I think there's more to get out of the motor with a dyno tune, but I'm very happy with the way it runs now. Fueling is still spot on with no dead spots.

We'll that's it in a nut shell, I hope this helps those who are interested.

Edit: almost forgot, on off throttle response is sooooo much better

What about the Rev limiter?

[PAULIBIKER_imp]

Installed the ECU put the key in, no FI codes (phew) started her up and idle was perfect still no FI codes

Warmed the bike up and checked the limiter ( see pic ) limiter is gone, there will be a time and place to check it, today was not the day.

Realized gains:
Stock 0-60 4.2 0-100 8.9
Flashed 0-60 3.7 0-100 8.3
I figured on these gains with the timing retard gone.

Whats impressive is the throttle response at 1/4 and 1/2 opening in lower gears. You just have to touch the throttle and the bike responds.

I assume i will be getting better fuel mileage and will report after a few tanks at normal riding conditions.

The front wheel gets real loose in first gear but not off the ground, same as my GS1100 but does not make the crazy power on top. HP gains i think are minimal, if i had to guess i would say about 5hp on top but more in the lower gear mid-range.

I think there's more to get out of the motor with a dyno tune, but I'm very happy with the way it runs now. Fueling is still spot on with no dead spots.

We'll that's it in a nut shell, I hope this helps those who are interested.

Edit: almost forgot, on off throttle response is sooooo much better

That's worth it right there.

All about driveability IMO. Especially on the CB1100, a bike made to "enjoy the ride".