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Put bike on centerstand
#21
I'm with Meowguy. I leave the sidestand down as an out in case something goes wrong (though it never has). I could see something happening, like my foot slipping off the centerstand arm during the lift. if the sidestand is down at least I have a chance by pulling the bike toward me.

I've always been a belt and suspenders kind of guy Tongue
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#22
(12-15-2013, 01:38 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm with Meowguy. I leave the sidestand down as an out in case something goes wrong (though it never has). I could see something happening, like my foot slipping off the centerstand arm during the lift. if the sidestand is down at least I have a chance by pulling the bike toward me.

I've always been a belt and suspenders kind of guy Tongue

Why doesn't the CB 1100 Manual suggest that operation.?
To put the sidestand down and then lift the centerstand.
Probably because it doesn't work.In fact,it really makes
the entire operation near impossible.
Like what I said originally.
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#23
In my youth, a little known technique to effortlessly operate a motorcycle center stand was revealed to me. I am bound by sacred oath not to reveal the details, but I can say that it involves the use of an old Indian trick known by some as the push-down-hard maneuver while using the magic of leverage at the same time.

when properly executed, it completely isolates the side stand from the center stand and makes side stand up, down, or anything in between completely irrelevant and independent from operation of the center stand.
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#24
I am a short ass fella, don't have problem putting it on the centre stand, do have a bit of over reach as I push it forward to get it off the stand.
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#25
(12-15-2013, 01:50 PM)_imp Wrote:
(12-15-2013, 01:38 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm with Meowguy. I leave the sidestand down as an out in case something goes wrong (though it never has). I could see something happening, like my foot slipping off the centerstand arm during the lift. if the sidestand is down at least I have a chance by pulling the bike toward me.

I've always been a belt and suspenders kind of guy Tongue

Why doesn't the CB 1100 Manual suggest that operation.?
To put the sidestand down and then lift the centerstand.
Probably because it doesn't work.In fact,it really makes
the entire operation near impossible.
Like what I said originally.

I don't know what method you're using, but something doesn't sound right. I've never had a sidestand become an issue when putting a bike on its' centerstand. Like Ferret said, the ST1300 is probably the "hardest" bike to put on a centerstand, even though I owned a GL1800 for 9 years. All of my bikes get parked on their centerstands when put in the garage (race stand for the bikes that lack a centerstand.)

From your earlier description, it sounds like you're using too much emphasis on the right hand and left hand. Like I said, I've put a 900 lb Goldwing on its stand hundreds of times, and the same amount for my 730lb ST1300. The CB1100 and VFR1200F are relatively easy compared to the previously mentioned "Big Un's."

I put most of my emphasis on forcefully pushing straight down with my right foot, some lifting effort on pulling upward with the right hand, and merely guiding the handlebar with the left hand, only ensuring the handlebar doesn't turn during the lift process.
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#26
(12-15-2013, 01:50 PM)_imp Wrote:
(12-15-2013, 01:38 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm with Meowguy. I leave the sidestand down as an out in case something goes wrong (though it never has). I could see something happening, like my foot slipping off the centerstand arm during the lift. if the sidestand is down at least I have a chance by pulling the bike toward me.

I've always been a belt and suspenders kind of guy Tongue

Why doesn't the CB 1100 Manual suggest that operation.?
To put the sidestand down and then lift the centerstand.
Probably because it doesn't work.In fact,it really makes
the entire operation near impossible.
Like what I said originally.

Why doesn't the CB 1100 Manual suggest that operation.? Well, lots of things are not described at all or in detail in the manual. E.g. I did not find in my CB 1100 manual how to get onto my motor bike. So does this mean that it is impossible? Tongue

Quote: To put the sidestand down and then lift the centerstand.
Probably because it doesn't work.In fact,it really makes
the entire operation near impossible.
Impossible? Well, then I am doing nearly daily impossible things with my CB 1100. I am great... Clap
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#27
(12-15-2013, 04:41 PM)thumper_imp Wrote:
(12-15-2013, 01:50 PM)_imp Wrote:
(12-15-2013, 01:38 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: I'm with Meowguy. I leave the sidestand down as an out in case something goes wrong (though it never has). I could see something happening, like my foot slipping off the centerstand arm during the lift. if the sidestand is down at least I have a chance by pulling the bike toward me.

I've always been a belt and suspenders kind of guy Tongue

Why doesn't the CB 1100 Manual suggest that operation.?
To put the sidestand down and then lift the centerstand.
Probably because it doesn't work.In fact,it really makes
the entire operation near impossible.
Like what I said originally.

I don't know what method you're using, but something doesn't sound right. I've never had a sidestand become an issue when putting a bike on its' centerstand. Like Ferret said, the ST1300 is probably the "hardest" bike to put on a centerstand, even though I owned a GL1800 for 9 years. All of my bikes get parked on their centerstands when put in the garage (race stand for the bikes that lack a centerstand.)

From your earlier description, it sounds like you're using too much emphasis on the right hand and left hand. Like I said, I've put a 900 lb Goldwing on its stand hundreds of times, and the same amount for my 730lb ST1300. The CB1100 and VFR1200F are relatively easy compared to the previously mentioned "Big Un's."

I put most of my emphasis on forcefully pushing straight down with my right foot, some lifting effort on pulling upward with the right hand, and merely guiding the handlebar with the left hand, only ensuring the handlebar doesn't turn during the lift process.

I don't know what method you're using, but something doesn't sound right. I've never had a sidestand become an issue when putting a bike on its' centerstand. Like Ferret said, the ST1300 is probably the "hardest" bike to put on a centerstand, even though I owned a GL1800 for 9 years. All of my bikes get parked on their centerstands when put in the garage (race stand for the bikes that lack a centerstand.)

From your earlier description, it sounds like you're using too much emphasis on the right hand and left hand. Like I said, I've put a 900 lb Goldwing on its stand hundreds of times, and the same amount for my 730lb ST1300. The CB1100 and VFR1200F are relatively easy compared to the previously mentioned "Big Un's."

I put most of my emphasis on forcefully pushing straight down with my right foot, some lifting effort on pulling upward with the right hand, and merely guiding the handlebar with the left hand, only ensuring the handlebar doesn't turn during the lift process.
All I know is I couldn't even come close with the sidestand down.
And I hurt my back.The CB does have a spring loaded sidestand.
The only Bike I've owned that does.
Still doesn't explain why the manual { for all those who go strictly
by the manuel } says nothing about making sure and putting the
sidestand down before using the centerstand.
I know all model motorcycles have a spring attached to the sidestand.
But that doesn't make them spring loaded { automatically springs into place }.
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#28
I place both my bikes on the center stand. I'm just shy under 140# and skinny. It's all about technique.
What's explained on this thread is all great and the right approach. My suggestion is to study the video, play it in your mind a few times and go to your bike and practice a few times with what's been shared here and viewed.
For safety and peace of mind, try to have someone spot you.

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#29
Seriously folks, we are going to argue about whether the side stand goes up or down when putting a bike on the center stand? Do it whichever way works best for you, and which ever method you feel most comfortable with. There is no "Government Approved" method on which way to do this. If you feel comfortable with the side stand down...go for it. If you feel comfortable with the side stand up..have at it. Fer Pete's sake

Like Ron says above, study the video, run it over thru your mind a couple times. If you are feeling unsure, have a neighbor or spouse there to spot you. Once you get the technique down, you will wonder why it ever intimidated you in the first place.
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#30
Somehow there is a big communication failure here. Thumpers method is perfect. You walk up and stand next to the bike, which is leaning over on the side stand. Or you are riding, then stop, then put the bike on the side stand and get off. Either way then you step on the center stand lever (right foot) and then hold the bike straight up until you stabilize bike by feeling both pads of center stand touching the ground at the same time.... You have not touched the side stand which is still extended. Then you push down with right foot and pull up with right hand. If you hold the bike straight up then fold the side stand back, then you have to balance the bike while standing on one foot to operate the center stand. You don't try to put the bike on center stand while still straddling the bike. The manual doesn't say extend the side stand first because you do that before you get off..... Its already extended.
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