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A new Camry should last till the next Ice Age. Just like Mrs. G's Honda, which is a grey box that takes her to work, and Costco, and Mom's on the weekend. I've always loved cars, I work around all kinds of cars, and I think if I didn't ride, I'd still be driving fast, loud Mustangs.
These days, my car is something I keep in the garage for rainy days or when I need to carry something that won't fit on a bike, and I have a note on the steering wheel to remind me to unplug the charger before I drive it. Still, whatever I drive will be fun, and the little ST is like a motorcycle with four doors. There is the assumption that if you work in a car museum, you must drive something exotic. I always get the question... "I'll bet you must drive a really cool car, right?" "I drive a Fiesta."
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I am grateful for a cage that keeps me warm in winter, cool in summer, dry, have fair fuel economy, has a low cost of ownership, does not attract attention, and does not leak oil (nor burn oil). That is utility.
Now, I've been riding since I was a kid and it continues to stir the soul.
Between the two, my daily needs are covered.
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(03-28-2024, 11:30 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I am grateful for a cage that keeps me warm in winter, cool in summer, dry, have fair fuel economy, has a low cost of ownership, does not attract attention, and does not leak oil (nor burn oil). That is utility.
Now, I've been riding since I was a kid and it continues to stir the soul.
Between the two, my daily needs are covered.
Thank goodness
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(03-28-2024, 04:53 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: (03-28-2024, 04:46 AM)Ollie_imp Wrote: The same bike not even broken in with 1,300 miles (3 model years older) for $5,000 less sounds hard to pass. But being flat black would encourage me to pass, I hate flat painted motorcycles. so get a 3k paint job of your choice and still be ahead 2k.
 so get a 3k paint job of your choice and still be ahead 2k.
But is he really $2,000 ahead? A 3 model year older motorcycle will likely be worth at least $2,000 less. Having been repainted generally lowers value on a motorcycle like that. And a final edition might not depreciate as much as a regular Thruxton.
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Interesting dilema, Mr. P... my vote would be to get the greenie...it is simply gorgeous. I wanted a W800 and bought the cafe version (brown) because it was cheap. It was fun for a year, but what I really wanted was the blue standard one. An incredible deal came up for a used 2022 W800, only $5k with 300 miles on it ...but red. I just about bought it; again, because it was just such a good price and not because I wanted a red one. I passed on it, and then I found a new left over blue w800 heavily discounted at $7k. I could have saved 2 grand with that red. But I couldn't get it out of my head--I didn't want a red one. Very happy with the blue.
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(03-28-2024, 08:32 PM)m in sc_imp Wrote: (03-28-2024, 01:09 PM)Ollie_imp Wrote: (03-28-2024, 04:53 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: (03-28-2024, 04:46 AM)Ollie_imp Wrote: The same bike not even broken in with 1,300 miles (3 model years older) for $5,000 less sounds hard to pass. But being flat black would encourage me to pass, I hate flat painted motorcycles. so get a 3k paint job of your choice and still be ahead 2k.
 so get a 3k paint job of your choice and still be ahead 2k.
But is he really $2,000 ahead? A 3 model year older motorcycle will likely be worth at least $2,000 less. Having been repainted generally lowers value on a motorcycle like that. And a final edition might not depreciate as much as a regular Thruxton.
depends if you buy for resale, or usage TBH.
depends if you buy for resale, or usage TBH.
FWIW a motorcycle i buy represents money on fire. It has no value. Its life ends either at mechanical failure or a viking funeral riding off a cliff. several times in my life I have been lucky enough to trade in a bike for another bike, and each time the value of what I own has decreased significantly. that's the game. I don't deal in classics or restorations or anything like that, so value is a moot point to me.
when you consider how many miles i'm going to put on this triumph, there's no way it's going to have any value at all in about 5 years. Just like my CB, which is a beautiful and well cared for motorcycle. If i tried to trade it in i know i would struggle to get 2k for it. That's why i'm keeping it. A Bike ridden has more value than a bike traded.
(03-28-2024, 01:16 PM)pdedse_imp Wrote: Interesting dilema, Mr. P... my vote would be to get the greenie...it is simply gorgeous. I wanted a W800 and bought the cafe version (brown) because it was cheap. It was fun for a year, but what I really wanted was the blue standard one. An incredible deal came up for a used 2022 W800, only $5k with 300 miles on it ...but red. I just about bought it; again, because it was just such a good price and not because I wanted a red one. I passed on it, and then I found a new left over blue w800 heavily discounted at $7k. I could have saved 2 grand with that red. But I couldn't get it out of my head--I didn't want a red one. Very happy with the blue.
that situation is definitely more similar to where I'm at. You had your W800. I have my CB. you don't **NEED** a new W800, you just had aspirations for the blue one with the more comfortable seating position. I don't need a new bike since the CB does everything I need it to do, I just have aspirations for this perfect BRG and gold pinstripe masterpiece. I have the time and the money to get what I truly want, for once in my life. the Black triumph is your Red W800 exactly.
I think what I'm buying is partially a bike, and partially the experience of acting with zero compromise toward a goal. It's funny how when we really do that we realize that we don't get to do that very often.
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Seen this one in Greece last summer, came from Italy.
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Mr. P: Sounds like another situation that boils down to what will settle the head and keep the spirit alive.
Do what ever needs to be done, and perhaps that is nothing at all. Do it before you cannot.
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