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How To do your own 600 mile service
#81
Anyone had this much metal after 600 mile service? . Not sure where red paint flakes came from either. This was a brand new drain pan



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#82
Thanks for the info. About to do my 600 mile service before I take a ride to Roselawn , Indiana from Mellow Valley, Alabama . Hope it goes ok, been since 1976 that I rode so far. Love this bike!!
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#83
It helps to unfold a cardboard box under the bike as a working surface - catches any spilled oil pretty well.

Obviously, you should not wait until the 600 mile mark to check tire pressures.

600 miles is a good point to also clean the chain and sprocket teeth. I use WD-40 to clean the chain - it also works well on any part of the bike that has has chain lube thrown on it. Be careful not to get any on the rear brake rotor. Put the bike on the center stand, in neutral, and turn the rear tire by hand to access the chain. Don't run the engine with your hand near the chain, unless you are an amputation fetishist.

Also a couple drops of 3 in 1 oil on pivot points - kickstand, center stand, footpegs.
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#84
I'm another new guy reading up on whatever I can while I search for a nice used CB to buy....

Thank you for the great write up. I especially like the advice to put a couple of ounces of clean oil into the new filter before you install it.

One thing I'd like to add to all the people changing your own oil for maybe the first time- double check that the old oil filter gasket wasn't left stuck to the engine when you removed the old filter. It can easily be missed, and spinning on a new filter and gasket onto the old gasket will not give you a correct seal. Depending on the tightness, you can get a slow leak, or you can get more of a gusher, either not good. Many years ago one of those 10 minute oil change places did this on my car and luckily I was only driving a couple of miles afterward the oil change, because when I parked in the parking lot, I saw a pool of oil forming under the car.
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#85
In reading the maintenance schedule, Honda says at 600 miles you need to change the filter only. Apparently there is no such thing as break in oil anymore.
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#86
(09-04-2014, 11:59 AM)Oldtimer_imp Wrote: In reading the maintenance schedule, Honda says at 600 miles you need to change the filter only. Apparently there is no such thing as break in oil anymore.

Actually there never used to be such a thing as "break in oil" until the EPA got involved and mandated the reduction of certain compounds that have been deemed to be major pollutants and to be removed from oil. The problem is those compounds (ZDDP = Zinc and phosphorous) also provide a major part of the lubricating properties of motor oil. With the elimination of the flat tappet camshaft and corresponding lifters (tappets) with their roller counterparts, the EPA found that is was viable to institute the mandate now that more than 95% of vehicles on the road no longer required those compounds to survive.
Thus the introduction of break in oils on the market. In reality all these are are oils that use the old formulation so that flat tappet engines can survive. Some engine builders even specify these for the break in procedure of roller type engines even though they are not required after break in.

Back to the bike......the 600 mile interval for the first service is to remove and shaving that have accumulated in the filter or the oil pan during the break in period, and to do an inspection on the bike just to make sure that no issues have cropped up during that time.
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#87
I understand all the necessary items that need to be checked, I was just surprised that they did not recommend changing oil until 4000 miles and every 4000 afterwards.
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#88
Oldtimer, in my owners manual page 42 in the maintenance schedule 7 th column down

Engine Oil...initial = 600 mi (1000km) or 1 month
Regular= Every 4,000 mi (6,400 km) or 6 mo

With an R in a black circle next to each indicating Replace

Where are you finding it is suggested not to change oil at 600 miles?
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#89
I couldn't find my manual ( another senior moment) so I went to this site on page 39

http://www.hme-tc.be/TRG_LIB/NM2013/CB11...OM_ENG.pdf
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#90
hmmmm different than my manual. I dunno? That is Euro/Aust spec manual (it calls for 91 Ron gas), but it should recommend an oil change at 600 mi. It's funny there is a column at the top for 1000 mi X .06 (600 miles) but nothing is in it for oil?
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