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Honda's habit of making too many bikes
#11
(06-13-2018, 03:27 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Just imagine it's 1983 and you are interested in the new Honda CB1100F and you think you'll wait a couple years and pick up a left over... HA!

That's what I was thinking when I paid full list on my '13, the first day they showed up at the dealer. Having awaited it's arrival for about 3 years, I was not going to take the chance that I wouldn't get one.

Oddly enough, the CB1100 is the only bike I've bought that wasn't a leftover. I usually go for the deals on leftover models. I bought my CB750 in the crate when it was 3 years old. Saved me about 20% over the (mechanically identical) new model that was available and it happened to be the color that I really wanted.

Anybody remember the great Japanese motorcycle glut of the early 80s? I remember when dealerships had more leftover models than new models. Back then it was more common to buy a two or three year old "new" bike than it was to buy a current model.
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#12
I have bought my 3 CB 1100's as soon as they came out.
You can wait of course to see if you could get one for a left over price but during that waiting period you probably spend more money on alcohol to forget your sorrows.
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#13
I bought my new RS last week and it had about £1500 off list price but unless you are in position to buy it oughtright (i.e with no p/x) its the cost to change that matters. I feel fairly relaxed about stuff like this because at the end of the day dealers have to make money to keep their shops alive and busy and pay the wages of all the people in the workshop too. A good dealer will look after you and you will be happy to pay a bit extra, if they dont then they will go bust. IMHO The only way to beat the system is buy one bike and keep it forever or dont buy in the first place and have no bike at all. Wouldnt life be dull though? No pockets in shrouds as they say.....
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#14
When it comes to vehicles I know that typically if I see something that I really want then I'm likely going to pay a bit more up front compared to many others. But often because I went for exactly what it was that I wanted (when it's feasible that is) rather than compromising in some way in order to obtain a better deal, I've found that I'll still be enjoying my purchase long after others have moved on to something else.

In the case of my CB, by not holding out for a better price, I've had that much more time to enjoy my purchase. Of course I could have waited for a deal on a '13 CB1100 as others did, but back then I just didn't want to imagine not owning the bike as soon as possible. Jeez, I was worse than a kid at Christmas. No other motorcycle released over the past 25 years or so caught my eye the way the design of original CB1100 did. Certainly no other motorcycle has come along since I purchased my CB to cause me any regret over my purchase, the timing of it, or the price I paid for the bike. All of those details are now a part of what makes my CB "my CB".

I'm certainly not bragging. On the flip side of all that, I know that many people are simply more frugal than myself. They might get a different sort of contentment or happiness out of their purchases than me. I can also understand the guys who are constantly churning through various brands or models of motorcycles wanting to shop for the best deal possible to offset some of the monetary loss that they'll likely experience with each swap. Different strokes and all that jazz.
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(06-14-2018, 04:07 PM)Jfro5687_imp Wrote: I bought my new RS last week and it had about £1500 off list price but unless you are in position to buy it oughtright (i.e with no p/x) its the cost to change that matters. I feel fairly relaxed about stuff like this because at the end of the day dealers have to make money to keep their shops alive and busy and pay the wages of all the people in the workshop too. A good dealer will look after you and you will be happy to pay a bit extra, if they dont then they will go bust. IMHO The only way to beat the system is buy one bike and keep it forever or dont buy in the first place and have no bike at all. Wouldnt life be dull though? No pockets in shrouds as they say.....

That was essentially my strategy with the CB11. I was also shopping for a Yamaha XSR9, and BMW R9T, and many other similar models, but at the end of the day i just felt like the CB could carry me into old age it was so darn refined and solid. I don't want to have to buy another vehicle, so It was really about taking the best opportunity available at the time. I guess that's where I differ from everybody else: I wasn't in the market in 2013. when the CB11 was presented to me it was presented as "you can have a 2017 model for 12k, or you can have a 2014 model for 7.5k." the choice was obvious. It's the hindsight that got me thinking If i ever did have to buy a new bike again I would search first and foremost for leftovers.

so, going back to one of the original questions on this post: does anybody know of other bikes on the market today in a similar "leftover" situation to the CB11? Or is our CB totally unique in that respect?
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