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(11-16-2016, 10:48 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Cormanus, whether you use a clip style master link or a staking type master link (staking type means the ends of the master link pins are mushroomed to prevent pulling thru the outer plate) you don't have to remove the swingarm to replace a chain that has 2 visible ends. For an endless chain from the factory with no visible ends, 1 big solid circle, the swingarm must be removed for installation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVUYc1B9wLI
I have heard that water swirls in the opposite direction down under (it actually does due to the Coriolis effect) but this is just too many for me.
I am sure what happened is the chain was joined inadvertently due to enthusiasm and then the swinging arm was removed. Of course, the master link could have been removed and replaced once more after the usual placement of the chain but if no spare master link was handy (been there) what else you gonna do?
Anyone tries to tell me he's never dropped a socket down a cam chain tunnel or forgot to put a spacer in right when replacing a wheel...well you get my drift.
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Poor old Cormanus was not clear again. Thank you Ferret and Ulvetanna for your help in making me understand my error. Clear communication is so difficult, isn't it?
My understanding is that Pterodactyl chose to stake the new chain on a bench rather than on the bike. It was a deliberate decision and not inadvertent. For reasons unknown to me, he does not trust the available staking tools. The upshot? A homemade endless chain. That meant that the swingarm had to be removed so he could install it.
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(11-17-2016, 09:33 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Poor old Cormanus was not clear again. Thank you Ferret and Ulvetanna for your help in making me understand my error. Clear communication is so difficult, isn't it?
My understanding is that Pterodactyl chose to stake the new chain on a bench rather than on the bike. It was a deliberate decision and not inadvertent. For reasons unknown to me, he does not trust the available staking tools. The upshot? A homemade endless chain. That meant that the swingarm had to be removed so he could install it.
sometimes Cormanus sometimes
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(11-17-2016, 09:33 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Poor old Cormanus was not clear again. Thank you Ferret and Ulvetanna for your help in making me understand my error. Clear communication is so difficult, isn't it?
My understanding is that Pterodactyl chose to stake the new chain on a bench rather than on the bike. It was a deliberate decision and not inadvertent. For reasons unknown to me, he does not trust the available staking tools. The upshot? A homemade endless chain. That meant that the swingarm had to be removed so he could install it.
Makes sense to me. The long way around but if you have the time, why not? Also staking is rather difficult to do with the chain on the bike; I use the type of master link that essentially rivets the link in place which is quite simple but actually staking the pins, like the OEM chain, that's something different.
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(11-17-2016, 02:14 PM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote: (11-17-2016, 09:33 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: Poor old Cormanus was not clear again. Thank you Ferret and Ulvetanna for your help in making me understand my error. Clear communication is so difficult, isn't it?
My understanding is that Pterodactyl chose to stake the new chain on a bench rather than on the bike. It was a deliberate decision and not inadvertent. For reasons unknown to me, he does not trust the available staking tools. The upshot? A homemade endless chain. That meant that the swingarm had to be removed so he could install it.
Makes sense to me. The long way around but if you have the time, why not? Also staking is rather difficult to do with the chain on the bike; I use the type of master link that essentially rivets the link in place which is quite simple but actually staking the pins, like the OEM chain, that's something different.
That was the point, I think.
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why the heck would anyone ever remove the swing arm to install any chain? just buy a chain tool and a master link and done.
