07-26-2015, 10:43 PM
As policy I deleted the Samurider seat ad since the item was sold, and I didn't want it to turn into a bashing thread, however there were some salient points being made, and it served as a good lesson for us.
When placing an ad for an item in the classifieds, it is important to give as much information as possible to prospective buyers
Sample:
Jacket.. Tourmaster, waist length, with zip out liner, blue, black and silver, size large, 1 year old,, looks new, no rips or tears, all zippers work as they should, 2 chest vents,1 back vent, inside pocket.. retails 195.00 I'm asking $75.00 shipped to Conus (Continental United States ie: lower 48) and include a couple of pictures of the item from different sides/ angles.
It is also important for seller to respond to questions in a timely manner with as accurate of information as is available or to the knowledge or the belief of the seller. It becomes incumbent upon the buyers to ask the right questions.
Sample:
Does it have CE armor in the shoulders, elbows and back?
Once All parties are satisfied they have enough information the transaction should then proceed.
We don't have any remedies here, and to tell the truth this was the first " incident" that I recall where something wasn't what the buyer believed it to be. Usually the reports say " Got the item quickly, exactly as described, thanks "seller". Go ahead and delete the ad.
And that's the way it should go.
In any case, when you buy something from the classifieds, you are accepting the risk that the item might not be as you expect. Maybe the wind management on a windshield doesn't suit you, or a seat is not as comfortable as you thought it would be, or a pair of gloves fits a little tight even though they are marked with your regular size. In exchange for that risk you are paying less than you would have if you had ordered new. In most cases savings in the classifieds approaches 50% from what I have seen. Like the recent $800 Staintune that sold for $400. Maybe it wasn't as loud as the buyer had hoped, (not saying that's the case here) but the buyer saved $400 to find out buying the item used instead of $800 to find out buying the item new. And he always has the option of listing the item for sale again and recovering all or most of his money.
I don't believe anyone here is out to rip another forum member off. I think in our recent case it was just a combination of a lack of details, which led to a suprise upon arrival.
In any case with any transaction, it is ultimately up to the buyer to make sure that the item for sale is indeed what he wants before sending the money, and up to the seller to disclose as much and as accurate of information as they can so the buyer can make that purchase feeling informed.
When placing an ad for an item in the classifieds, it is important to give as much information as possible to prospective buyers
Sample:
Jacket.. Tourmaster, waist length, with zip out liner, blue, black and silver, size large, 1 year old,, looks new, no rips or tears, all zippers work as they should, 2 chest vents,1 back vent, inside pocket.. retails 195.00 I'm asking $75.00 shipped to Conus (Continental United States ie: lower 48) and include a couple of pictures of the item from different sides/ angles.
It is also important for seller to respond to questions in a timely manner with as accurate of information as is available or to the knowledge or the belief of the seller. It becomes incumbent upon the buyers to ask the right questions.
Sample:
Does it have CE armor in the shoulders, elbows and back?
Once All parties are satisfied they have enough information the transaction should then proceed.
We don't have any remedies here, and to tell the truth this was the first " incident" that I recall where something wasn't what the buyer believed it to be. Usually the reports say " Got the item quickly, exactly as described, thanks "seller". Go ahead and delete the ad.
And that's the way it should go.
In any case, when you buy something from the classifieds, you are accepting the risk that the item might not be as you expect. Maybe the wind management on a windshield doesn't suit you, or a seat is not as comfortable as you thought it would be, or a pair of gloves fits a little tight even though they are marked with your regular size. In exchange for that risk you are paying less than you would have if you had ordered new. In most cases savings in the classifieds approaches 50% from what I have seen. Like the recent $800 Staintune that sold for $400. Maybe it wasn't as loud as the buyer had hoped, (not saying that's the case here) but the buyer saved $400 to find out buying the item used instead of $800 to find out buying the item new. And he always has the option of listing the item for sale again and recovering all or most of his money.
I don't believe anyone here is out to rip another forum member off. I think in our recent case it was just a combination of a lack of details, which led to a suprise upon arrival.
In any case with any transaction, it is ultimately up to the buyer to make sure that the item for sale is indeed what he wants before sending the money, and up to the seller to disclose as much and as accurate of information as they can so the buyer can make that purchase feeling informed.

