Joe Rocket Long Sleeve Quilted Liner

[2017EX_imp]

My riding jacket is a Joe Rocket Resistor, textile and mesh hybrid, with CE level 1 armor in the shoulders elbows and fore arms. I added a Forcefield CE level 2 back protector to replace the back pad the jacket came with. Here is the rub with a lot of jackets these days, they either do not come with a liner, the liner is a vest style, or it is a thin rain liner. I suppose this is a manufacturer cost cutter, or the intent may be to get riders to buy different jackets for different temperature ranges...who knows. My jacket came with a zip in/out quilted liner. I contacted Joe Rocket to see if I could buy a rain liner, and a long sleeve quilted liner for my jacket, and guess what...they do not sell liners separately. Finding a rain liner on EBay was easy, as there always a bunch of them for sale, but the long sleeve quilted liner was a long hunt. I finally found one, and now I can use my jacket without liner, with the rain liner, with the zip in quilted vest liner, or the long sleeve quilted zip in liner. The result is one jacket for all temps except when it is really cold, and in that case I probably wouldn't be in a riding mood anyway. I imagine the same could be done with most brands, and with a little luck, a brand A liner may still zip into a brand B jacket because I would bet a large percentage are all made in the same factories. I just found a size Large long sleeve quilted zip in Joe Rocket liner on EBay for real reasonable. If anyone needs or wants this kind of liner, the EBay auction number is 202251657208 . As hard as they are to find, I dont think it will be available for very long. No, that liner is not mine or anyone I know, just putting it out there for some other member that might need or want one.

[the Ferret]

interesting. here is a conversation we had not too long ago about jacket liners. I have a closet full of them I never use.

http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....ight=liner

[2017EX_imp]

I suppose whether or not liners or layers are the best choice has something to do with the temperature range where you live. I live in Texas, and different liner choices work very well for me, but might not for someone in a different part of the country. I did read the thread referenced by the Ferret, and do agree with at least one point. The rain liners I also think are best worn over jackets instead of under. The Joe Rocket rain liners are actually more like a windbreaker, and can be worn over a riding jacket, or as a stand alone wind breaker. It makes total sense to me to wear the rain liner over the riding jacket as a result, to keep the riding jacket from getting rain soaked. Who knows why the manufacturers thought rain liners should ever be worn under? Maybe those liners at the back of the closet should be listed on EBay, or in the gear for sale section of the Forum? Thanks goes out to the Ferret for posting the link to other thoughts on the subject.

[parm_94_imp]

I've got a liner in my Honda jacket but I'm considering a heated liner for some of those late or overnight rides here in BC.

[bigsheep_imp]

When I first got my Joe Rocket mesh jacket I went out one cool night and came right back home to grab the liner. The liner worked great, at 35 Km/h or less. The liner had no wind resistance whatsoever. I could feel the liner trapping my body heat at stoplights but as soon as I would hit second gear all the benefits of the insulation were blown away. I keep a thinsulate sweater and a wind breaker in my bag when there is a chance of getting too cold. I found this to be a great solution for road trips where I leave in the morning and it's very cold to blistering hot in the afternoon. I just remove a layer at stops as the day goes on and put them back on if temperatures drop. I used to play golf so I have a great Adidas Climashell wind breaker that works well at 120 km/h. My jacket liners just sit in the closet.

[emptysea]

Wind liners work fine inside a mesh jacket like the Resistor. However, count me in the camp with the others who suggest that layering is a better alternative to a quilted liner. I always have a t-shirt as my base and then wear a fleece mid-layer when it's cold or a thinner fabric as a mid-layer when it's cool. The wind liner goes over that and then the jacket. If it's hot, I skip the mid and wind layers (obviously). If it's raining, I wear rain gear over the jacket and pants. I chose to go this way with my mid-layers because they are items that I wear on and off the bike whereas the quilted liner is bike-specific--I'm cheap (but not Ferret-cheap LOL )

I'm looking at a heated liner for next winter, but that's another whole conversation, but even then, I'm looking for something that I could wear both on and off the bike.

I know your original post was not asking for opinions and I thank you for the information you provided.

[2017EX_imp]

No worries Emptysea. Trading info, opinions, and experiences that make riding motorcycles more enjoyable is what is all about isn't it? The rain liner is effective as a wind cutter and to hold in more body heat worn under the jacket, but I would only use it over ( not under ) the jacket in rain, and only then if I did not have my rain gear with me.

[the Ferret]

HEY... I'm not cheap, I'm frug.. ok I'm cheap.