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forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - Riko_imp - 03-31-2016
I present to you: the Polaroid Cube Plus.
An action cam I did not know about untill a few weeks ago when I was looking around for a compact cam to mount on my helmet, I said on, untill now....
About the cam, it may not be as sharp as a high end GoPro, but still good enough.
And cheaper than the GoPro Session and bit smaller too.
Main specs:
image stabilization;
max res of 1440p;
can do 120fps in 720p;
time laps;
etc
and all that for 150 USD
What I like the most is its very compact with its 35mm x 35mm x 35mm and has a big magnet at the bottom, wich allows a handy person to make something like this.
Now thats First Person View.
So what did I do and how did I do it?
I basically installed the cam inside the helmet using a magnet to hold it in place, accidental advantage is it has free movement...because you dont wanna have that fixed when crashing hard.
Some pics to show how I started my little project:
first I cut out a template from a plastic ringmap, the plastic is strong
One side I slide between the shell and the outer lining and on the other side I used the tabs from the inner lining to keep everything in place.
That was actually the hardest part.
Now get the cam and find some magnets, luckely I found some between my tools that were light and strong.
The cam is small indeed
This magnet actually came with packaging, but it was too big to slide under the plastic.
This tool was a tad too long
This one seems perfect
And it was, I could slide it completely underneath the plastic
Now you have a usefull action cam inside a helmet thank to some plastic a a strong magnet.
Tomorrow I'll make some footage, next 3 days are very sunny here in Belgium so I will ride a lot
I got inspired by a guy that did about the same, but used different materials...
![[Image: 1cc07f0ae8035a722c90dc73449aa9d4.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201603/1cc07f0ae8035a722c90dc73449aa9d4.jpg)
![[Image: 8d45c99d5608205a1ae1b9d660a16ec5.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201603/8d45c99d5608205a1ae1b9d660a16ec5.jpg)
![[Image: 3434c0d856dfaed3e876324f970d595c.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201603/3434c0d856dfaed3e876324f970d595c.jpg)
But his solution seems too dangerous in the event of an impact, so close to the temple
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - Randy B - 03-31-2016
There is no way I would put something like that inside of my helmet. Thin speakers are one thing, but this is large enough to cause some major damage if you go down. The foam is there to absorb any impact and is designed to collapse during an impact event. Once your head comes into contact with this either this will break, or your head will, and probably both.
I just think that it's a bad idea.
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - AzBob_imp - 03-31-2016
(03-31-2016, 07:54 AM)Randy B_imp Wrote: There is no way I would put something like that inside of my helmet. Thin speakers are one thing, but this is large enough to cause some major damage if you go down. The foam is there to absorb any impact and is designed to collapse during an impact event. Once your head comes into contact with this either this will break, or your head will, and probably both.
I just think that it's a bad idea.
Right in the weakest area of your skull, too, the temple/orbital socket. That's god bad idea written all over it.
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - Riko_imp - 03-31-2016
This is why its not fixed in any way, and only uses magnetic force.
That can make a huge difference.
One could also argue that fixing a camera on the outside, wether it be on top or on the side, could also cause major skull injuries depending on how you fall...M. Schumacher.
(03-31-2016, 08:19 AM)AzBob_imp Wrote:(03-31-2016, 07:54 AM)Randy B_imp Wrote: There is no way I would put something like that inside of my helmet. Thin speakers are one thing, but this is large enough to cause some major damage if you go down. The foam is there to absorb any impact and is designed to collapse during an impact event. Once your head comes into contact with this either this will break, or your head will, and probably both.
I just think that it's a bad idea.
Right in the weakest area of your skull, too, the temple/orbital socket. That's god bad idea written all over it.
Right in the weakest area of your skull, too, the temple/orbital socket. That's god bad idea written all over it.
mine is not at the temple area, but bellow the cheek bone
I think you are looking at the bottom 2 pictures, this is not my set up as I explained...
![[Image: b2101c6c5a0f94f6f6c12f91c0bb74ad.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201603/b2101c6c5a0f94f6f6c12f91c0bb74ad.jpg)
![[Image: a870179a2bab5f962699b6d06f079881.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201603/a870179a2bab5f962699b6d06f079881.jpg)
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - Frulk_imp - 03-31-2016
I'm really surprised that no major helmet manufacturer has come out with a design which incorporates mounts or some type of recess/well for a camera. Just seems to be a huge demand for it.
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - Riko_imp - 03-31-2016
todays cams are just too big, this little polaroid is the first together with the Session from GoPro you could fit inside a helmet
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - flynrider - 03-31-2016
That looks like a very compact little camera, Riko. The specs (120 fps / 720p) are just fine for a helmet cam. I must admit that I was a bit surprised to learn that Polaroid was still in business.
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - the Ferret - 03-31-2016
I think I had read that Polaroid has filed bankruptcy twice, but are making a comeback now.
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - Pterodactyl_imp - 03-31-2016
Can't agree with you Riko. GoPro, from Hero4, goes to 4K video resolution and is a much more versatile camera. Some features that are useful on and off the bike include up to 12MP photo res in single shot, burst, multi and night photo, time and night lapse with multiple shutter settings. ISO control, EVP, spot metering, pro-tune, looping, highlight tagging, simultaneous video and photo capability, exposure compensation, white balance etc. Waterproof (great for kayaking, fishing and surfing).
As for mounting a camera inside the helmet. Not a good idea. If your head comes in contact with it it has nowhere to go. Mounting on the exterior of the helmet allows the camera mount to shear allowing the helmet padding to do its job. I have mounted the camera on my helmet but have found that, while mostly satisfactory, editing is required to remove head checks if, like me at least, you tend to look twice and manoeuvre once
. The price is right for the Polaroid, but I fear one gets what one pays for.
Cheers
RE: forget GoPro, this is the best FPV set up for a motorcycle! :) - kmoney_imp - 03-31-2016
(03-31-2016, 10:20 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I think I had read that Polaroid has filed bankruptcy twice, but are making a comeback now.Some of their new instant cameras do look kinda cool -- they've basically reinvented the classic Polaroid instant photo, but digital and using zero ink printing technology.