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Pushing the boundaries - Cormanus - 05-20-2015
I hesitate to do this, but someone sent me a link to this video today and I was so unnerved by the difficulty of solving what appears to be a simple two-wheeled problem.
Ferret, if I'm out of line, please delete the post, or the second bit at least.
RE: Pushing the boundaries - Ack-CB11_imp - 05-20-2015
Cool stuff
RE: Pushing the boundaries - Cormanus - 05-20-2015
Don't you love the way the arrows wobble when you see them in slow motion?
RE: Pushing the boundaries - redbirds_imp - 05-20-2015
Just remember to counter-steer?
Being a traditional archer also I can appreciate the difficulty of the shots that Byron makes look easy. He's just amazing.
Pushing the boundaries - Cormanus - 05-20-2015
Do you know the guy, Redbirds? He's amazing. Watching some of that slow-motion footage made me realize just how much an archer has to adjust for a range of factors.
He was disappointed he didn't hit the aspirin first time. Wow!
RE: Pushing the boundaries - the Ferret - 05-20-2015
even though I love talking archery almost as much as talking motorcycles as they are both a huge part of my life I'd really like to keep things motorcycle related, so I removed the archery part.
BTW the bicycle part of that was amazing to me. How his son was able to learn so fast was fascinating and why I think it's important to teach young people how to ride motorcycles when they are very young. Train the Brain!
For Cormanus:
The arrow wiggling in flight is called paradox as the arrow has to recover from being rear ended so to speak from the string before bending around the handle or riser of the bow. If an arrow doesn't have the correct 'limberness" it won't be accurate. I know Byron Ferguson, he is an acquaintance. Nice guy, and a very good archer. We have both performed trick archery at the same sports shows. I was taught by my father who also performed trick shooting shows. Trick archery is not as difficult as it looks and with the shooting objects out of the air, the tosser is as important as the shooter. The shooter shoots for a spot. The tosser must toss the object so the peak of the toss is at the same spot no matter what is being tossed be it grapefruit, apple or aspirin. That's why trick shooters use the same tossers all the time. They know how high and how fast to toss the object.The archer must time it so that his arrow arrives at the spot the same time as the object tossed. Also the ends of the arrows use a blunt tip which are much larger than the arrow shaft itself. Byron is very good and he uses a system called gap shooting where he places the tip of the arrow above or below an object he wants to hit given the distance. Using the tip of the arrow as a sight. I shoot purely instinctually. I look where I want to hit and let her rip letting my brain remember the arc of the arrow.(much like looking thru a corner where you want to go on a motorcycle, or hitting a receiver with a football as he runs across the field.) A gap shooter will be more accurate in the long run than an instinctive shooter. The great Howard Hill was a gap shooter. Fred Bear and Glenn St Charles were instinctive shooters. I knew Fred and Glenn too. Never met Howard though. Like motorcycling archery is a pretty small community really.
Pushing the boundaries - Cormanus - 05-21-2015
Thanks for the information, Ferret. All interesting.
In Australia, few would want to be branded a tosser! But in this case I can see how important the coordination between the two participants is.
RE: Pushing the boundaries - redbirds_imp - 05-21-2015
Ferret is too modest. Anyone who can trick shoot with a bow is a wonder to those of us who never attain that level of expertise. I couldn't hit an aspirin tablet nor the bolt head of a CB axle shaft (motorcycle related) if placed on a tee at any range.
RE: Pushing the boundaries - metallyguitarded_imp - 05-23-2015
That was very interesting. Conceptually, it seems it would take only a few minutes of practice to figure it out and be on your way. I'm confident, however, I would do no better than anyone else on that video.
RE: Pushing the boundaries - the_undecider_imp - 05-24-2015
Since I watched this a few days ago, I have been dying to try it. I know it's difficult l, but I'm sure I got this...