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CTX1300 - Chapomis_imp - 01-19-2016
For a while now I have been thinking about selling my 94 FLSTN and going to something both quieter and newer. The CTX1300 has caught my eye and the dealers are offering heavy discounts(4K to 5K), sorta like the CB1100
What can anyone tell me about them ? No, my DLX will not be for sale. I also like the ST1300, but hard to find with low milage.
RE: CTX1300 - the Ferret - 01-19-2016
The CTX 1300 is a detuned ST1300 88 hp vs 125 made into a bagger. mUch of the plastic is removed to show the engine, and the windshield is fixed and short. I think Huladog just sold one to buy another CB 1100.
And actually like most bikes these days, ST 1300s can be had with low mileage and cheap. Go cruise the classifieds on ST-owners.com. Just saw a 07 with 26 k and farkles for $5500. As tall as you are I would think an ST1300 would be a better fit and the adjustable windshield is the cats meow.
RE: CTX1300 - Chapomis_imp - 01-19-2016
I'm going to go look at this one over the weekend: http://www.cycletrader.com/dealers/MOMS-Foxboro-2898050/listing/2005-Honda-ST1300-114662635
They also have a used CTX1300 as well.
When you say detuned, what do you mean ? I am totally dumb when it comes to modern vehicles, my mechanical abilities ceased with working on beetles in the 70s.
RE: CTX1300 - Olyrider - 01-19-2016
I'll defer to Ferret to explain "de-tuned". Honda built the CTX 13 as a Japanese rendition of a modern cruiser. With similar performance characteristics. It is fun to ride, FSVofF, but not nearly as much fun as our bikes, as lacks many of the amenities of the ST1300. One noticeable factory farkle is bluetooth cockpit speakers, but that is of no consequence to me.
My ST13 is an '04 with 32K miles. It has a larger-than-stock (taller and wider) windscreen, Givi box, STainetunes, Honda heated grips, adjustable shorty levers, almost-new heated Russell seat, new Racetech springs and fork seals, $600 Clearwater LEDs, and just one small scratch. PLUS, it has ABS brakes! Not having ABS brakes on my '13 CB isn't a concern to me at all, but I wouldn't have bought a 750-lb ST without them. I'm 6'3" tall. Like Ferret said, the electric windshield on the ST is pure gold! Dialing in the exact height you desire is one of motorcyling's true joys. It makes highway/interstate riding far less tedious and tiring.
I mentioned all my farkles just to note that I doubt my ST is worth any more than $6,500 tops to a buyer. And that is "with" ABS, which isn't as common as you might think. I don't see an ABS ring on the front wheel of the bike you are going to look at. In ST circles, that is about a $1,000 deduction.
IMHO, that is a $5,500 bike. In the Spring. Certainly not in January. $5,000 tops this time of year. And there is still that thing about no ABS.
RE: CTX1300 - Chapomis_imp - 01-19-2016
Thanks Oly. They seem to be priced less in your area and in the deep south, but the avg asking price up and over here is @ 7-8K. There are a few 12s, but I can't afford new and don't want black.
Do you have a pic with the Anti lock ring ?
RE: CTX1300 - Olyrider - 01-19-2016
I'm 60 miles from bikes today, so no pictures. Sorry'. Someone else will most certainly chime in, however. The ABS ring on a front rotor is about 7 inches in diameter, but only 1/2 - 3/4s of an inch wide. Along its course, it has dozens of "slots" that are spaced equi-distant from one -another. So...slot, solid, slot, solid, slot, solid all around the ring. That's probably a befuddling description of a visual.
I'm sure there will be a picture soon, however.[/u]
RE: CTX1300 - Cormanus - 01-19-2016
It was a heavy brute, but I really enjoyed the ST I rode at the rally in May. With the windscreen and the fairing it was a great touring bike with oddles of power. Like the CB, once it was moving it was a dream to ride. I liked the adjustable windscreen, although I could never get it low enough to stop very noisy turbulence around my helmet. Curiously, my CB with no screen is heaps quieter for that reason. Chapomis, you're tall and may well rise above that problem.
Used to have a CTX1300 - Huladog_imp - 01-19-2016
I used to have a 2014 CTX1300 Deluxe in between my 2013 CB1100 and my latest 2014 CB1100.
Yes, it's Honda's take on a "bagger" and you can find them at bargain prices now. I got mine as a leftover when Honda discounted them, but decided for my riding the bigger bike wasn't needed and got a leftover 2014 CB1100 to replace it.
The CTX1300 does have the same engine as the ST1300 but they changed it for more torque down low (which it does have) and they reduced some of the higher end HP (it could use it but you wouldn't miss it too much). The Honda V-4 is smooth and quiet with a different vibe than an inline-four. I got the CTX because I wanted to try a V-4.
It won't have the kind of off idle torque like your V-twin, though. I used to have a 2010 Street Glide.
Handling? Good.
Brakes? Good and strong.
Bags? Nicely integrated into the bike but the backsides are contoured to fit tightly to the bike so they don't hold as much as they appear to hold. Bags on my BMW R1200RT were huge in comparison, bags on the Street Glide were easier to use with top loading.
Forks feel rather harsh although they seem to soften a little with some miles, rear is OK and you can swap shocks. What probably aggravates the harsh feeling front end are the bars which reach way back to the rider, so they amplify any vibrations. Not as much after market support so you have to search out the suspension solutions which can get expensive for the front end.
Only a 5-speed but the ratios are nicely spaced and with the torque you don't miss a 6th gear since it's geared tall enough.
Shaft drive is a no brainer.
Getting the beast onto the optional center stand isn't that easy, nor getting it off the stand. It weighs about 200 pounds more than our CB's at around 750 or so.
Fairing is nice and deflects wind properly much like the Road Glide I guess since it's frame mounted and blocks the wind coming up from under the forks and tank which is a problem on the bat wing fairing Harley's.
Cee Bailey does have a few different height replacement screens and the Honda tall touring screen is also effective.
There is a CTX1300 forum you can check into for the latest from the real world riders.
If you want a mile muncher but want to downsize a bit from the full dresser sized bikes including the touring Big Twins or a Goldwing, then the CTX might fit.
Plus it's a Honda, so it'll keep running forever with the same basic engine as the ST. After the initial 600 mile oil change the next oil change was 8,000 miles and it wasn't spec'd for synthetic oil either! It's designed like a car engine with the fuel filler "door" at the back of the "tank" and the fuel tank under the seat.
Stock seat by way is very comfortable. Oh, one pain is putting air into the rear tire since the bags limit your access and there isn't much room on top of the tire valve to place the air chuck.
Ask me any questions and I'll try to remember my impressions!
Aloha,
Huladog
RE: CTX1300 - Olyrider - 01-19-2016
Here is a picture of the ABS ring on our bikes:
[url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5377&page=3]http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....377&page=3
Post #30, 2nd photo. Zoom in on front wheel.
RE: CTX1300 - Chapomis_imp - 01-19-2016
I'm 30 miles of water away from my CB, but I looked at a picture and can see it, lol, now I know what that is. My Spyder has the electric windshield and allows me different helmet options in different weather. I generally ride with it down, but my wife really appreciated it when we were in the mountains and rode after dark and the temps plummeted. She doesn't like full face and she was getting chilly.
Thanks for the info Hula. I'm going to sit on one this weekend, wish I could test drive, but its not going to get out of the 30s. The dealer i'm going has both an ST and a CTX.