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I tip my cap to Indian - Guth_imp - 10-07-2018
When the rumors that Indian was going to build a street tracker started to surface I was more than a bit skeptical. Well, here we are getting ready to head into 2019 and Indian has truly managed to surprise me. I was confident that Indian wasn't going to be able to achieve what we saw in the concepts, but they came much closer than I would have imagined.
I know that this won't be everyone's cup of tea and I could think of a few things that I'd like to have seen done differently, but this is a much bolder step that I was expecting from Indian. For that, I tip my cap to them. I hope sales of this bike manage to exceed my expectations — it won't take many. That's more of a knock on motorcycle sales overall these days than it is about this bike in particular.
[url=https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200-s/]2019 Indian FTR 1200 S
[url=https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200/]2019 Indian FTR 1200
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - Randy B - 10-07-2018
Impressive...and bold.
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - misterprofessionality - 10-07-2018
they look great, and I'm so glad to see an American Motorcycle company doing something that makes more sense for the market.
Having watched it and seen some of the stats come out of the development process for this bike, i'm strongly worried that it may be seriously overpriced for what it delivers. it's kind of the same thing that our CB suffered/continues to suffer, in that most buyers find a competative bike to be a better buy in the same category/price range.
my biggest hope is that indian won't get all pouty if it doesn't sell and will continue trying to make things like this.
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - Cormanus - 10-07-2018
Wow! That's a different looking beast for Indian. I hope they have good luck with it.
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - peterbaron - 10-08-2018
OK bike to me, but CB tops all so far and it is a keeper at least for me
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - Banned_imp - 10-08-2018
I like the looks of the production model far more than the concept bike.
But someone is going to have to explain to me how it is somehow more aesthetically pleasing to have a short stubby tail with that ugly licence plate bracket from the swing arm as opposed to a normal tail with the traditional plate mount.
The CB1000R is the same way and I don't like it at all.
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - redbirds_imp - 10-08-2018
Not my type of bike but a great effort by Indian to make something besides the same old foot forward cruisers. I hope they sell many of them.
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - Banned_imp - 10-08-2018
(10-08-2018, 09:42 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote:(10-08-2018, 05:21 AM)Banned_imp Wrote: I like the looks of the production model far more than the concept bike.
But someone is going to have to explain to me how it is somehow more aesthetically pleasing to have a short stubby tail with that ugly licence plate bracket from the swing arm as opposed to a normal tail with the traditional plate mount.
The CB1000R is the same way and I don't like it at all.
because its supposed to be a flat tracker, that's what they look like. no offense, but if all bikes looked like ujms (cb), the world would be a very boring place.
![[Image: e00b776f4589a0cf0dcdb1f273e3379a.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201810/e00b776f4589a0cf0dcdb1f273e3379a.jpg)
because its supposed to be a flat tracker, that's what they look like. no offense, but if all bikes looked like ujms (cb), the world would be a very boring place.
![[Image: 201ac15abdb0634d457da800748b1820.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201810/201ac15abdb0634d457da800748b1820.jpg)
Ah, but you left the bottom part of my statement out which changes the context of what I said.
The new CB1000R is not a flat tracker and it has the same back end as does the new Katana, hmm also not a flat tracker. MT series, Diavel, shall I continue?
So back to my original question - How does the stubby tail and ugly bracket make bikes (that are not flat trackers) look better?
And for the record I own 3 bikes, only one of which is a UJM so don't presume to know what I like.
Oh and thanks for the picture - condescending much?
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - Guth_imp - 10-08-2018
The bracket mount license plate beats sticking it anywhere near the short tail. (I've personally never been a fan of the fender eliminator look with the license plate sticking out or tucked under.) Without a fender there's just no place to put the plate without it really messing up the lines completely. Plus that bracket styling is far more in vogue with the younger crowd. This bike is more of a modern interpretation of a street tracker from the company that is utterly and completely dominating flat track at this point in time. To me, that's pretty cool regardless of how it looks. I don't see this bike as competing with either the CB1100 or the CB1000R. I'd say it's definitely in a class of it's own. While I wouldn't trade my CB in for one, I can still admire it for what it is, bracket mounted license plate and all.
By the way, for my clarification what was condescending about the photo that was included?
RE: I tip my cap to Indian - Banned_imp - 10-08-2018
I found his whole post somewhat condescending, I do know what a flat tracker looks like. Plus, it has been my experience that when someone says "no offense but..." they are usually being offensive.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited about the FTR1200 which may replace my Ulysses in a couple of years. But I disagree with you about the look of the knew brackets everyone is using. I would much prefer the method as used on the new CB300R as opposed to the side bracket.