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Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - pdedse - 03-19-2019

Interesting article: [url=https://motorbikewriter.com/suzuki-patent-radar-reflector/]Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector

The good: "Suzuki Motorcycles have developed a radar reflector, not to detect or jam a police speed radar, but to make motorcycles easier for hi-tech cars to detect them."

The bad: "In fact, the radar reflector could make motorcycles easier for police to detect with radar guns!"

The ugly?: "And once the systems are developed, the next step is for legislators to make them mandatory."


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - GoldOxide_imp - 03-19-2019

RE The bad: Just ride in the wake of cages in suspected monitored zones.

RE The ugly: Yeah, drives vehicle cost up.


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - LongRanger_imp - 03-19-2019

I'm all for it. I don't trust autonomous vehicles to avoid me.


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - GoldOxide_imp - 03-19-2019

(03-19-2019, 01:08 PM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I'm all for it. I don't trust autonomous vehicles to avoid me.

Don't get too comfortable - continue to ride with vigilance. An autonomous vehicle with richer sensors is still an autonomous vehicle. It will make decisions based on its array of sensors and not working sensors! A lot will be decided for better or for worse in fractions of a second. Ride prepared every time when surrounded by cagers and this is something we continue to control ourselves.


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - pdedse - 03-19-2019

(03-19-2019, 01:18 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(03-19-2019, 01:08 PM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I'm all for it. I don't trust autonomous vehicles to avoid me.

Don't get too comfortable - continue to ride with vigilance. An autonomous vehicle with richer sensors is still an autonomous vehicle. It will make decisions based on its array of sensors and not working sensors! A lot will be decided for better or for worse in fractions of a second. Ride prepared every time when surrounded by cagers and this is something we continue to control ourselves.

Actually, GoldOxide, I'm curious about this from the bottom of your messages:

[url=https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFTKd3hdFxiYGVM&cid=56DDABE3C993FAEF&id=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21444&parId=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21442&o=OneUp]2014 Honda CB1100A (listen)

How fast were you going before shifting? Biker


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - GoldOxide_imp - 03-19-2019

(03-19-2019, 01:56 PM)pdedse_imp Wrote:
(03-19-2019, 01:18 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(03-19-2019, 01:08 PM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I'm all for it. I don't trust autonomous vehicles to avoid me.

Don't get too comfortable - continue to ride with vigilance. An autonomous vehicle with richer sensors is still an autonomous vehicle. It will make decisions based on its array of sensors and not working sensors! A lot will be decided for better or for worse in fractions of a second. Ride prepared every time when surrounded by cagers and this is something we continue to control ourselves.

Actually, GoldOxide, I'm curious about this from the bottom of your messages:

[url=https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFTKd3hdFxiYGVM&cid=56DDABE3C993FAEF&id=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21444&parId=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21442&o=OneUp]2014 Honda CB1100A (listen)

How fast were you going before shifting? Biker

Actually, GoldOxide, I'm curious about this from the bottom of your messages:

[url=https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFTKd3hdFxiYGVM&cid=56DDABE3C993FAEF&id=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21444&parId=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21442&o=OneUp]2014 Honda CB1100A (listen)

How fast were you going before shifting? Biker
That was a moving run with shift into third, so not very fast ~ 80 - 90 km/h.


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - pdedse - 03-20-2019

(03-19-2019, 09:32 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(03-19-2019, 01:56 PM)pdedse_imp Wrote:
(03-19-2019, 01:18 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote:
(03-19-2019, 01:08 PM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I'm all for it. I don't trust autonomous vehicles to avoid me.

Don't get too comfortable - continue to ride with vigilance. An autonomous vehicle with richer sensors is still an autonomous vehicle. It will make decisions based on its array of sensors and not working sensors! A lot will be decided for better or for worse in fractions of a second. Ride prepared every time when surrounded by cagers and this is something we continue to control ourselves.

Actually, GoldOxide, I'm curious about this from the bottom of your messages:

[url=https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFTKd3hdFxiYGVM&cid=56DDABE3C993FAEF&id=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21444&parId=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21442&o=OneUp]2014 Honda CB1100A (listen)

How fast were you going before shifting? Biker

Actually, GoldOxide, I'm curious about this from the bottom of your messages:

[url=https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFTKd3hdFxiYGVM&cid=56DDABE3C993FAEF&id=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21444&parId=56DDABE3C993FAEF%21442&o=OneUp]2014 Honda CB1100A (listen)

How fast were you going before shifting? Biker
That was a moving run with shift into third, so not very fast ~ 80 - 90 km/h.

Ah! At first listen I thought it was first into second, but now I hear that.


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - DBM_imp - 03-20-2019

The best advice l ever got when l first got off my dirt bike and on to a street bike was "ride like you are invisible". This has stuck with me for the last 45 years, and made me a better, safer rider.


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - GoldOxide_imp - 03-20-2019

(03-20-2019, 09:52 AM)DBM_imp Wrote: The best advice l ever got when l first got off my dirt bike and on to a street bike was "ride like you are invisible". This has stuck with me for the last 45 years, and made me a better, safer rider.

For me, a lifetime of shoulder checks has been the highest return on investment.


RE: Suzuki Motorcycle patent radar reflector - flynrider - 03-20-2019

(03-19-2019, 01:08 PM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I'm all for it. I don't trust autonomous vehicles to avoid me.

I worry more about the human drivers myself. I ride several times a week in an area where Waymo (i.e. Google) has been road testing their autonomous cars for several years now. I think overall the robot cars have a better awareness of the presence of motorcycles than the human drivers.

I think radar reflectors are just the beginning. I suspect that future cars will have gadgets that communicate position and speed information to all of the other cars around them. It's already happening in aviation. This year I get to buy a new mandated device for my plane that sends my position info to all other planes in the area. It's the first step in eliminating human based air traffic control.