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NT1100 Speculation Over - Tev62 - 10-20-2021
So here it is in the flesh. I am not totally convinced. Price is good, DCT unique offering, looks a bit scooterish from certain angles, 40HP-50HP down on the competing Suzuki and Kawasakis, it's a tough market out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x86ekM8CsAg
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - alprider - 10-20-2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBCGXodpqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2sOXjecjuQ
and the specs
https://www.honda.de/motorcycles/range/touring/nt1100/specifications.html
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - misterprofessionality - 10-20-2021
40-50hp down on the competing suzuki? Isn't the competing suzuki the Vstrom 1050? They're about equal in bhp aren't they?
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - Sparky80_imp - 10-20-2021
it seems that its competition is the Africa Twin. Not sure what market it would fit in.
A buddy of mine had an AT and we toured the west coast on it. Surprised by how well it did but couldn't hold a candle to the others of us on a C14, a 1290 Super Adventure and my FJR1300.
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - misterprofessionality - 10-20-2021
oooooo i see now. you're comparing it to proper sport touring offerings. Tev must have been talking about the GSX1000F. Yea it's a bit down on power compared to that monster, but it's way up on comfort.
As far as the C14 goes....you really can't make that comparison. It's like night and day. You'd have to compare to a Versys1000 LT
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - GoldOxide_imp - 10-20-2021
The Honda 2022 NT1100 is slotted as an alternative to the heavy and more expensive upper tier touring model brands. Honda hopes to capture this market (assuming it exists).
The engine offering is fine for touring, reliable and economical. Honda is betting touring is not a race - which is a reasonable position. Nevertheless, it is unlikely the NT1100 will be left behind in everyday use.
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - alprider - 10-20-2021
honest...i dont know.....100 ponys are more as enough.......
we arnt on the track/ raceway....
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - misterprofessionality - 10-20-2021
(10-20-2021, 11:31 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: The Honda 2022 NT1100 is slotted as an alternative to the heavy and more expensive upper tier touring model brands. Honda hopes to capture this market (assuming it exists).
The engine offering is fine for touring, reliable and economical. Honda is betting touring is not a race - which is a reasonable position. Nevertheless, it is unlikely the NT1100 will be left behind in everyday use.
They're dead right about that. especially among the demographic that will buy this bike. Big power on touring bikes has always been kind of silly. The question is, does it possess the torque and suspension to support large loads like passengers and two weeks worth of luggage? I think it does if they're just transplanting the Africa Twin into this thing.
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - LongRanger_imp - 10-20-2021
Nice. Kinda reminds me of a R1250RS but with chain drive.
RE: NT1100 Speculation Over - Tev62 - 10-21-2021
(10-20-2021, 09:23 PM)misterprofessionality_imp Wrote: 40-50hp down on the competing suzuki? Isn't the competing suzuki the Vstrom 1050? They're about equal in bhp aren't they?
Not the V-Strom, the new GSX1000S-GT
(10-20-2021, 11:07 PM)misterprofessionality_imp Wrote: oooooo i see now. you're comparing it to proper sport touring offerings. Tev must have been talking about the GSX1000F. Yea it's a bit down on power compared to that monster, but it's way up on comfort.
As far as the C14 goes....you really can't make that comparison. It's like night and day. You'd have to compare to a Versys1000 LT
I was indeed, well, the new version now named the GSX1000S-GT
To my mind you do need more than 100HP if you are going to pile a bike high with luggage and go two up. I got rid of my Africa Twin because it was quite anaemic two up fully loaded. You can make the argument all day that 100HP is enough but by the same token you could say that about 80HP or 50HP, they will all break the speed limit and go from A to B.