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First oil change - gary_imp - 04-21-2014
Did my first oil change last night at 240 miles. The manual says 4 quarts without removing the filter, which I didn't. I checked the oil cold on the center stand before draining. It was exactly at the full mark in the sight glass. Took her for a ride for about 30 minutes. Put it up on the center stand and drained the oil. The oil was very "thin", I usually put rotella 15w-40 in my bikes so I am used to the soupy stuff. This, comparatively, was like water.
I ended up putting the maxima break in 10w-30 in it which had a very similar viscosity to what I took out after it cooled down. The oil that came out looked good with a little bit of sheen swirled in there as expected.
Filling
As the engine cooled the oil dropped in the sight glass a bit so I topped it off. Filling the oil on the center stand and watching the sight glass I got 3.8 quarts back in before it reached the same mark as before once the engine was cool.
Something I noticed, there wasn't a crush washer on the bike from the factory. That is a first for me.
This is not intended to start another oil debate, just sharing my oil change for those out there that want to do it themselves but are nervous about levels. It not rocket science and as stated on the forum before, be consistent.
If this does start another oil debate. Sorry Ferret
RE: First oil change - the Ferret - 04-21-2014
Im doing mine right now Gary, although I'm doing the filter on mine as well at 476 miles. Will do an addendum for the How To section for the 14 models.
Strangely mine did not have a crush washer either, (although I'm putting one on it when I button it up). I thought maybe I dropped it in the oil although I was very careful as per my practice, because it wasn't on the bolt or the bottom of the motor, so I swam my hand around in the dirty oil looking for it, but it wasn't in there either.
EDIT: I just looked it up on the CB 1100 14 microfiche and it clearly calls for a 94109-1400 14 mm crush washer. Item 23 on the fiche below.
http://www.hondapartshouse.com/oemparts/a/hon/52f28c1df870021404ec5a64/oil-pan-oil-pump
First for me as well.
Btw I held back 4 ounces out of my gallon, because when I did the 600 mile service with oil filter on my 13, a full gallon overfilled it a bit. I will put in the 3 qts 28 oz and chase the fill line like you did. Funny other guys have used the full 4.1 qts to hit full line.
Both filter and drain plug were pretty tight on this one, but not oil filter deforming tight.
RE: First oil change - HikerToo_imp - 04-21-2014
Ferret, ever try one of those magnetic oil filter bolts that collect shavings, seems like a good idea?
RE: First oil change - the Ferret - 04-21-2014
Hiker...never tried one. Never saw the need. If I did see anything on it, it would just cause me needless worry.
RE: First oil change - HikerToo_imp - 04-21-2014
darn, thought that was you who broke one off and had the dealer remove it.....must have been another who follows and uses torque specs.
RE: First oil change - the Ferret - 04-21-2014
Nope, wasn't me. I thought someone went in because they couldn't get theirs loose from the factory. Don't remember anyone breaking one off. The threads would strip in the cast oil pan before you could break off a 14 mm shank steel bolt.
RE: First oil change - Ack-CB11_imp - 04-21-2014
It was meowguy who broke a Dimple plug off.
I've done 8 changes on mine, no trouble at 22 ft lbs and they do catch metal.
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=541
RE: First oil change - Tortuga_imp - 04-21-2014
(04-21-2014, 02:56 AM)Ack-CB11_imp Wrote: It was meowguy who broke a Dimple plug off.
I've done 8 changes on mine, no trouble at 22 ft lbs and they do catch metal.
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=541
Crumbs, what mileage did you do those at? That's a lot of oil changes mate!
I have always done filters up hand tight on every vehicle I've worked on. Is that not best practice?
RE: First oil change - Ack-CB11_imp - 04-21-2014
(04-21-2014, 05:36 AM)Tortuga_imp Wrote:Crumbs, what mileage did you do those at? That's a lot of oil changes mate!(04-21-2014, 02:56 AM)Ack-CB11_imp Wrote: It was meowguy who broke a Dimple plug off.
I've done 8 changes on mine, no trouble at 22 ft lbs and they do catch metal.
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=541
Crumbs, what mileage did you do those at? That's a lot of oil changes mate!
I have always done filters up hand tight on every vehicle I've worked on. Is that not best practice?
I only have 2800 on it now. I've tested multiple weights and brands. I do as hand tight as I can then give it a 1/4 turn with the socket. Mine too came with a washer from the factory.
RE: First oil change - redbirds_imp - 04-21-2014
Strange, no crush washer. Mine came with one and I would get one for the next oil change.