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Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Ridem32_imp - 06-25-2014
The front sprocket on both the 13 & 14 models is 18 teeth the rear on the 13 is 39 teeth the 14 rear is 40 teeth
The ground clearance on the 13 & 14 standard is 4.9 inches. The deluxe is 5.3 inches
Engine dry weight 13 models 191.6 pounds
14 engine dry weight (6 speed) 192.9 That's 1.3 pounds different for the 6th gear
Timing on the 13 models 8 BTDC 14 models 10 BTDC
13 models have 3 piston front brake caliper pistons.
14 models have 2 ( larger) front brake caliper pistons.
The 13 model front center caliper piston is combined with the rear brake on the ABS model.
The 14 model is not combined ABS
The 14 deluxe has .7 tenths bigger fuel tank, gear indicator and fuel mpg display. That's the main minor difference I can find between the 13 & 14 models. All info is from honda service manual for the 13 & 14 models.
RE: Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Tyke57nz_imp - 06-25-2014
(06-25-2014, 03:59 PM)Ridem32_imp Wrote: The front sprocket on both the 13 & 14 models is 18 teeth the rear on the 13 is 39 teeth the 14 rear is 40 teeth
The ground clearance on the 13 & 14 standard is 4.9 inches. The deluxe is 5.3 inches
Engine dry weight 13 models 191.6 pounds
14 engine dry weight (6 speed) 192.9 That's 1.3 pounds different for the 6th gear
Timing on the 13 models 8 BTDC 14 models 10 BTDC
13 models have 3 piston front brake caliper pistons.
14 models have 2 ( larger) front brake caliper pistons.
The 13 model front center caliper piston is combined with the rear brake on the ABS model.
The 14 model is not combined ABS
The 14 deluxe has .7 tenths bigger fuel tank, gear indicator and fuel mpg display. That's the main minor difference I can find between the 13 & 14 models. All info is from honda service manual for the 13 & 14 models.
Wonder if there will ever be an good after market 19 tooth front sprocket for a 13 model?
Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Ridem32_imp - 06-25-2014
I don't think there is enough room on the motor for a 19 to fit. The 18 fits tight. But I'm just going by pics in manual. But it looks tight.
RE: Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Guth_imp - 06-25-2014
Thanks for the info Ridem. Copyrighted tidbit removed.
Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Ridem32_imp - 06-26-2014
Tyke you can drop the rear sprocket say by 2 teeth and should be great. 1 tooth on the front = about 4 on the rear. Really little less than 4. But 2 would make a huge difference. Hope that helps you.
RE: Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - shdwghst457_imp - 06-26-2014
This was something Elipten and I were talking about briefly the other day. I don't ever need to go 118mph, but I would like it to have quicker acceleration. Do I want a smaller or a larger rear sprocket for this? Instinct says smaller, but I could see a larger sprocket having more leverage on the wheel due to the bigger radius. I'm trying to relate it to bicycling but the 1140cc monster is a much better engine than I am!
RE: Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Dengie Boy_imp - 06-26-2014
A bigger rear sprocket would increase your revs for a given speed in each gear - theoretically improving acceleration (if you can change gear quick enough). However the cheaper deal would be to buy a smaller front sprocket which would do the same job.
Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Ridem32_imp - 06-26-2014
The larger the rear spocket the more power ( less top end speed). The smaller the front sprocket the more power. If you went with a 17 tooth on the front it would make a huge difference in power and you could still hit you speed limiter of 112mph.
Good job dengie we was typing at same time. But I can't type I peck with one finger lol
RE: Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - shdwghst457_imp - 06-26-2014
Going to start a thread for this.
RE: Gear ratio 13 & 14 models - Dengie Boy_imp - 06-26-2014
Ridem
Now I've got you again, I asked on another thread for the difference in gear ratios between the two models. You posted an excellent chart with all the info I wanted and now its gone! Any chance you could tap in the overall final ratio's for the 14 bike for 6 gears? Thanks mate.