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Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - ChipBeck_imp - 01-14-2015
Gentlemen,
Perhaps some of our more technical members can answer this question. There are very few 2014 Deluxe CB1100s out there for sale. I like the bare aluminum engine and silver wheels but procuring a 2014 and starting all over with my mods is something I don't have time for right now. Still, I would really like a six speed transmission and although it would be insanely expensive, can the 2014 six speed be bolted into a 2013 CB1100? Has anybody looked into such a mod or attempted it? I do not like the blacked out 2015 standard and if I do start all over it would have to be with the DLX.
At this point I rather spend a lot of money swapping out the transmission in my 2013 CB if that's possible. Does anybody know the answer to this question? All the best.
Chip
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - Randy B - 01-14-2015
Chip it would be the entire engine, and I would think it would be very doable, but you would need not only the engine, but the entire harness and the computer to get it done and I think that would be prohibitively expensive.
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - gossman_imp - 01-14-2015
I think they already did that, it's called a Deluxe
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - redbirds_imp - 01-14-2015
Would probably be less costly to trade the 2013 for a 2014 model.
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - flynrider - 01-14-2015
(01-14-2015, 08:31 AM)Randy B_imp Wrote: Chip it would be the entire engine, and I would think it would be very doable, but you would need not only the engine, but the entire harness and the computer to get it done and I think that would be prohibitively expensive.I think that's the only route. As I recall, the engine cases on the '14 model had a different size/shape to accommodate the six speed transmission. I don't think the parts would transfer internally.
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - ChipBeck_imp - 01-14-2015
(01-14-2015, 08:31 AM)Randy B_imp Wrote: Chip it would be the entire engine, and I would think it would be very doable, but you would need not only the engine, but the entire harness and the computer to get it done and I think that would be prohibitively expensive.
I know the 2014 bike has a gear indicator in the gauge pod but the 2013 does not have a gear indicator, just the neutral light. Is the 2014 engine different from the 2013 engine? How do you know the engine and computer/harness would have to be replaced?
Chip
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - Randy B - 01-14-2015
The computer is different from what they have been saying at the programming places and as such would require a different harness and computer. The engine and transmission are all in one case and as such need to be replaced as a unit. I know they changed the parameters of some of the programming and possibly the cams, but the latter I'm not sure about.
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - the_undecider_imp - 01-14-2015
(01-14-2015, 10:13 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote:I think that's the only route. As I recall, the engine cases on the '14 model had a different size/shape to accommodate the six speed transmission. I don't think the parts would transfer internally.(01-14-2015, 08:31 AM)Randy B_imp Wrote: Chip it would be the entire engine, and I would think it would be very doable, but you would need not only the engine, but the entire harness and the computer to get it done and I think that would be prohibitively expensive.I think that's the only route. As I recall, the engine cases on the '14 model had a different size/shape to accommodate the six speed transmission. I don't think the parts would transfer internally.
This is correct. Engine cases are wider to accommodate the extra gear is the tranny. I also recall reading that the frame is different in order for the wider engine to fit. I don't think it is a feasible swap.
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - xNE0x_imp - 01-14-2015
It's not. Trade in the 13' and get a 14' deluxe. I know that is not the answer you were hoping for, but this is the lesser of 2 evils.
RE: Will the 6-speed trans bolt into the 2013 CB11???? - CIP57_imp - 01-14-2015
Chip,
If you change the gearing on the 2013 you will close the gap to about 300 RPM's in top gear to that of a 2014 model for about $100.00 The 19 tooth front and 38 rear will net you about 3600 RPM's in 5th @ 70 MPH vs 3300 I personally find it to be a better ratio for the bike with the longer gears. You'll have a smoother transition through the gears with less engine braking.
I would give it a shot, its a lot cheaper and less work than a trade.
Steve