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Building custom pipes for CB1100 - metalmaven_imp - 05-07-2015
There are a lot of smart people on this forum and I was hoping that some knew of backpressure and other details when it comes to exhaust.
I am thinking of taking my 4 into 1 and making it 4 individual pipes, two on each side of the bike.. If I run straight pipes all the way back with some simple baffle inserts, does that affect much?? Or will it simply just kick butt..
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - Lord Popgun - 05-07-2015
Google Helmholtz resonator
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - metalmaven_imp - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 01:48 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Google Helmholtz resonator
I googled it. Read it. I just think its a little over my head lol.
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - metallyguitarded_imp - 05-07-2015
You lost me at "...a lot of smart people on this forum..."
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - Randy B - 05-07-2015
Even if you have a 4 into 4 you're still going to want crossovers to connect the pipes as this does a couple of things. The first being it equalizes the backpressure across the cylinders. Second it can help with scavenging and help make a little more power. Third it changes the tone slightly and actually can help keep it a little quieter (if that's what you want). Of course the tone ans noise level will be more greatly effected by the mufflers you choose than anything else.
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - kDiqq_imp - 05-07-2015
Alright, I've discussed this a lot on hot rod forums when it comes to headers and free-flowing exhaust. You want to flow as much air out as possible for big power. Backpressure on modern four strokes is nearly irrelevant and is not needed. I've seen people say 'Oh I dyno'd more power on the 1-3/4" headers over the 2" headers, backpressure matters!' The truth is, if you get headers that don't match the head, you get turbulence and that causes reduced flow. People with 2" exhaust ports that use a 2" primary do see big gains over a 1-3/4" header. Anywho I tangented, you don't need to worry about backpressure. Pipes have a head loss caused by friction between the passing air and the rough surface of the pipe. With as many bends as there are in the pipe, you're going to get some backpressure no matter how much you try to alleviate it. So worry not. It will be there and it is not needed. Keep your primary size consistent with exhaust port size, you'll be fine.
Though, if you want to make more power, a nicely designed collector will provide a scavenging effect. A really nice example is how automotive headers are made, but your 4 in to 4 shouldn't lead to any significant loss in power (or any loss at all IMO) but I HAVE BEEN WRONG and you should never trust me
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - Inline4_imp - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 06:46 AM)metallyguitarded_imp Wrote: You lost me at "...a lot of smart people on this forum..."
My comment isn't going to be as eloquent as some here could have posted, but
LOL!!!!!!!!
Just classic! Thanks for the chuckle.
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - metalmaven_imp - 05-07-2015
Thanks guys! So it would be a lot less work to make 4 individual pipes than it would be make build a crossover into the mix.. Is that a really important thing to have in the exhaust system? I dont want to half ass it, just asking the question..
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - Cormanus - 05-07-2015
One smart member
![[Image: 572350f7bd5cb6639dd76ea031333f0e.jpg]](https://cb1100forum.net/forum/uploads/imp/201505/572350f7bd5cb6639dd76ea031333f0e.jpg)
RE: Building custom pipes for CB1100 - metalmaven_imp - 05-08-2015
(05-07-2015, 11:39 PM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: One smart member
He looks like he could rip a mean fart, but thats not the kind of exhaust im talking about here..