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Oil Change interest? - Scotty_imp - 09-15-2020
So I received my Honda filter, O-ring, drain plug washer, and Hubris Oil. Yeah, I got the 10W-40 but don't flame me for that! It was time for my first CB1100 oil change.
Back story: my 2013 is a recent purchase with 3,000mi. on it. I've put almost 500 miles on it in a week or two. The previous owner had very fresh oil in it, but I didn't know what oil was in there (surely it wasn't Hubris), it was a little over filled, and the filter definitely wasn't up to my standards. Why people tighten oil filters with a wrench is beyond me...
Anyway, here's my procedure, and you're going to re-read this part once you see the last photo attached:
Southern California summertime heat. I rode the bike for about 10 fairly aggressive miles to really warm the engine. I backed it into my garage, put the bike on the center stand, loosened the filler cap, and had the hot oil flowing out of there within five minutes. It flowed out very quickly. I was pleased. I messed around, letting it drain fully, and got the materials I would need to remove the oil filter. I hadn't done it before so I covered the pipes with aluminum foil to direct it into a smaller receptacle when I removed the filter.
With the filter off I wiped all of the surfaces clean (using a pair of old, but laundered, cotton boxer shorts).
I checked the main drain hole at this point. It had stopped draining of course, but I had a plan. I reinstalled the drain plug finger tight and removed the large oil collection container. I pushed it off the center stand and began leaning the bike as far as I could comfortably, first left then right. I used the side stand and moved to the right side of the bike so I could lean and hold it at an angle. Why? Well this is a wide, 4 cylinder engine with many places for oil to sit and hide when level. That's a good thing, but I was trying to get the old oil out.
I noticed our engines have a definite little sump area that drains to the plug at the bottom. How much extra oil do you think I was able to get down there with my leaning procedure? See that last picture. Those three little cups were now released when I pulled the drain plug for the second time. Yep.
I presaturated the new OE filter and hand tightened it in place. That's another thing I'm particular about, the pre-fill part. Then I put the new washer on the drain plug and tightened it.
4 quarts of Hubris and I'm at the upper range of the oil window after a nice little ride. It shifts better now, of course.
Moral of the story, for me at least: do your own maintenance, use your noggin, and have fun being a perfectionist. It's only a motorcycle after all.
BTW, those little Solo cups you see the oil in are 2oz. each.
RE: Oil Change interest? - TXBikerGuy - 09-15-2020
Huh. Didn't realize those little cups were good for anything but jello shots...
Nice write up. I'm about ready to do the first oil change on my 2017 and wouldn't have thought to do the procedure that yielded the hidden oil. Good to know.
RE: Oil Change interest? - Scotty_imp - 09-15-2020
[quote='TXBikerGuy' pid='275574' dateline='1600223443']
Huh. Didn't realize those little cups were good for anything but jello shots...
LMAO!
RE: Oil Change interest? - Ben70_imp - 09-15-2020
Hi Scotty! May not seem economically feasible, but I drain the oil, refill with 4 qt. new oil, ride the bike a few miles then change oil and filter.
The bike holds 5 qts, when dry like after a rebuild, so even with the 3 jello shots extra, there is still some lurking. I figure if the same oil bathes engine, trans and clutch it deserves the best change feasible.
With all my other bad habits, overspending on oil won't break the camels back.
Ben
RE: Oil Change interest? - dave - 09-15-2020
Hubris oil?
RE: Oil Change interest? - Scotty_imp - 09-15-2020
Wow, you out-analed even me. I'm impressed!
And, yes, I am troubled by that post rebuild oil volume issue too. LOL!
(09-15-2020, 01:18 PM)Ben70_imp Wrote: Hi Scotty! May not seem economically feasible, but I drain the oil, refill with 4 qt. new oil, ride the bike a few miles then change oil and filter.Thinking more, I am impressed by your logic. But, the big question for such an oil service: what's your oil change interval? You can tell us...
The bike holds 5 qts, when dry like after a rebuild, so even with the 3 jello shots extra, there is still some lurking. I figure if the same oil bathes engine, trans and clutch it deserves the best change feasible.
With all my other bad habits, overspending on oil won't break the camels back.
Ben
(09-15-2020, 01:18 PM)Ben70_imp Wrote: Hi Scotty! May not seem economically feasible, but I drain the oil, refill with 4 qt. new oil, ride the bike a few miles then change oil and filter.
The bike holds 5 qts, when dry like after a rebuild, so even with the 3 jello shots extra, there is still some lurking. I figure if the same oil bathes engine, trans and clutch it deserves the best change feasible.
With all my other bad habits, overspending on oil won't break the camels back.
Ben
RE: Oil Change interest? - Ben70_imp - 09-15-2020
About 4 to 5k between changes with synthetic oil, 10-30. I won't say what kind. We are hovering precariously on the brink of an oil thread. Turn back before it's too late!
Ben
RE: Oil Change interest? - Scotty_imp - 09-15-2020
Ok, ok, you're right. Don't listen to the Sirens!
You're awesome Ben. Thanks
(09-15-2020, 01:35 PM)Ben70_imp Wrote: About 4 to 5k between changes with synthetic oil, 10-30. I won't say what kind. We are hovering precariously on the brink of an oil thread. Turn back before it's too late!
Ben
RE: Oil Change interest? - Lord Popgun - 09-15-2020
Ha Ha, Dave doesn’t know what Hubris oil is!
Hint: It comes from Australia. Cormanus knows all about it...
RE: Oil Change interest? - Cormanus - 09-15-2020
Hubris? http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=15917&pid=273859#pid273859